Episode Downloads of Gundam SEED Destiny.

[Mith252000]

Ok, I will be posting both raw and subbed version of all the episodes. First things first, here is a raw torrent of Episode 1 of Gundam SEED Destiny.

[NBA_loveitlive]

0_o where is it...

[Last Exile Gear]

You gunna post the link or what? I've been dying to at least scan through the raw so as to get an idea before the fansub is released.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Yes Yes, Where o where is it?

[Last Exile Gear]

Since our boy up there seems to have dropped the ball, here's were you can get subbed ep 1. Your gunna need Bittorrent to DL it though.

http://ukefansubs.dyndns.org:6886/

[Mith252000]

Opps, I forget to put the site. Sorry!!!!!!

[OtakuBerserker]

WTF?! SO ARE YOU GOING TO POST THE SITE NOW OR WHAT?!?!? OMFG!

[Last Exile Gear]

WTF?! SO ARE YOU GOING TO POST THE SITE NOW OR WHAT?!?!? OMFG!

Look at my second post...

[Mith252000]

If you miss Last Exile Gears reply, here is the site.

http://bt.gundams.net/%5BU-F&_YO%5D_Gundam_Seed_Destiny_-_Phase_01_%5BDD13B6FC%5D.torrent

[AzN_GaNjA]

w00t startin DL now...

gundam seed is like a year old now isnt it? ... >_>

[Mith252000]

Yup, it has been only a year since the end of Gundam SEED. Hmm, do you think we should post spoilers here?

Oh, I just wish I was Shin at that moment. Find out from the episode what I mean by that.


The two Lacus rumor:

"In additional to the real Lacus, another character Tanaka Rie may very well voice in Gundam SEED Destiny is the fake Lacus.

A rumor currently circulating in Japan is that the fake Lacus is named Kizuna Kousaka. I first came across the name a few months ago in one of the many Gundam SEED Destiny rumors that were floating around at the time.

Kizuna strongly resembles Lacus, but has deep blue hair instead of pink hair. Kizuna's hair has been dyed pink in order for Kizuna to impersonate Lacus.

In regard to the rumor, one Japanese fan says that Kizuna yearns after Lacus, getting used to being her, and wants to become her."

[CapnCrooked]

seriously... the EDIT button is made for a reason. Please don't post multiple times in a row. :)

[Mith252000]

Sorry, captain for my stupidity.

Here is a pic I find symbolic.

http://mhiro2000.hp.infoseek.co.jp/n0410091_24.jpg

[Lord_Burn]

If you miss Last Exile Gears reply, here is the site.

http://bt.gundams.net/%5BU-F&_YO%5D_Gundam_Seed_Destiny_-_Phase_01_%5BDD13B6FC%5D.torrent
Hey, if you like Last exile, join my club!;)

[CapnCrooked]

Sorry, captain for my stupidity.

Here is a pic I find symbolic.

http://mhiro2000.hp.infoseek.co.jp/n0410091_24.jpg
no worries. At least you know now. :)

Cool pic.

[Mith252000]

Oh, if you want a sub done by AONE, here it is.


http://a.scarywater.net/aone/GUNDAM_SEED_DESTINY_-_01_%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D%5B3ABEB218%5D.avi.torrent

Here is the raw torrent of episode 2! Enjoy!

http://tracker.saiyaman.info/btfiles/[SaiyaMan]_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_2_RAW.avi.torrent

Here is the subbed torrent for episode 2. Enjoy!

http://a.scarywater.net/animeheaven/%5BACH%26A-H%5DGundam%20Seed%20Destiny%20-%2002%20(HQ)%5BA3B675CC%5D.avi.torrent

[Mr.Furious]

how far into the series did it get to

[Mith252000]

It has only started two weeks ago so there is just two episode.

[Last Exile Gear]

Ep 2=****ing sweet!

Impulse's Double Sword Striker was quite a sight to behold and watching Asuran kick butt in a mere Zaku is always heart warming. And we were introduced to a new mystery. I knew that the man in the mask had to be Kuruuz from the beging, but what about that boy? Is he another Fraga clone? I can only wait to see.

[Mr.Furious]

how does gundam seed end? i never got around to finishing that series

[Mith252000]

Hmm, a brief spoiler, Fllay, Mwu, Natarle, Raw, the three Astray girls, Patrick Zala died. There are more deaths actually. Hmm, the subs from Anime Heaven sucks. Here is the sub from Uko.


http://ukefansubs.dyndns.org:6886/stats.html?info_hash=b60036803d59aa135823747d63da1 c218e609e3f

Here is a sub done by Aone and Anime Kingdom. The best of them all!

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_02_%5B48B51147%5D.avi.torrent

[CapnCrooked]

QUIT DOUBLE POSTING

Even if the posts are seperated by a few days, if no one has replied, just edit the last post.

[Aegis]

i don't care what anyone says, the ZAFT blond guy in white zaku is the sexiest bastard therefore my fav character

[Mith252000]

Well, there was an earthquake in Japan and it happened in the middle of the Gundam SEED Destiny show so there is only the first half available. Please be patient for the whole version.Below is only 11 minutes long as this is only the first half of the show.

http://bt1.greedland.net/download.php?btId=108457

Hmm, it seems that in Japan, the channel airing GSD is airing episode 3 directly after episode 4. So, expect the fansubs of both episodes next week.

[Mith252000]

Ok, go to http://bt1.greedland.net/for the raw. Although it is in Chinese, you can spot it easily.

[Mith252000]

Here is the sub done by Aone and Anime Kingdom.

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_Seed_Destiny_-_03_%5Bv2%5D_%5B55EED8F4%5D.avi.torrent

[OnLyHaLfDeMon]

uh where is it

[Crazy_Ewok83]

uh where is it
Dude, go to animesuki.com look up Gundam Seed Destiny and go to the most recent episode torrent. It's not that hard

[Force]

OMG!! im new to anime and manga and stuff. and i have seen the 1st 3 episodes of gundam seed destiny.... and they were AWESOME!!! does anywone know where i can get more? are there any sites where i can dl ALL the episodes from? apparently there was a series b4 destiny... what was it and where can i get it?

im dlin gundam seed astray.... the red and blue frame. what are the differences in the colours? what is it about. is astray b4 destiny?

( and omg!! that end tune to destiny is awesome even tho i dont understand japanese,lol)

also what are these and what are the differences? do they continue on from each other?

# Gundam Evolve
# Gundam SEED Astray
# Gundam Seed Destiny
# Gundam X
# Gundam ZZ

um... i also read naruto manga from narutofan.com :P

[Last Exile Gear]

OMG!! im new to anime and manga and stuff. and i have seen the 1st 3 episodes of gundam seed destiny.... and they were AWESOME!!! does anywone know where i can get more? are there any sites where i can dl ALL the episodes from? apparently there was a series b4 destiny... what was it and where can i get it?

im dlin gundam seed astray.... the red and blue frame. what are the differences in the colours? what is it about. is astray b4 destiny?

( and omg!! that end tune to destiny is awesome even tho i dont understand japanese,lol)

also what are these and what are the differences? do they continue on from each other?

# Gundam Evolve
# Gundam SEED Astray
# Gundam Seed Destiny
# Gundam X
# Gundam ZZ

um... i also read naruto manga from narutofan.com :P


Where to begin...

First, Gundam Seed Destiny is currently running in Japan, and they are only up to ep 3, so we're only up to ep 3. In other words, your watching Destiny at the same pace kids in Japan are.

Gundam Seed Astray is two OVA side stories to the Gundam Seed Astray manga. You wont really get understand what's going on unless you've read the manga.

Gundam Evolve is just some short little clips of CG animated Gundams doing shit.

Now here's a quick run down of Gundam series and movies for you.

Universal Century(UC) Universe
Mobile Suit Gundam
0080: War in the Pocket
08th MS Team
0083: Stardust Memory
Z Gundam
ZZ Gundam
Char's Counterattack(movie)
Gundam F-91(movie)
V Gundam
G Saviour(movie)

Future Century(FC) Universe
Mobile Fighter G Gundam

After Colony(AC) Universe
New Mobile Suit Report Gundam Wing
New Mobile Suit Report Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz(movie)

Correct Century(CC) Universe
∀ Gundam

Cosmic Era(CE) Universe
Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Astray
Gundam Seed Destiny

That pretty much covers everything, oh and Naruto sucks.

[Force]

Where to begin...

First, Gundam Seed Destiny is currently running in Japan, and they are only up to ep 3, so we're only up to ep 3. In other words, your watching Destiny at the same pace kids in Japan are.

Gundam Seed Astray is two OVA side stories to the Gundam Seed Astray manga. You wont really get understand what's going on unless you've read the manga.

Gundam Evolve is just some short little clips of CG animated Gundams doing shit.

Now here's a quick run down of Gundam series and movies for you.

Universal Century(UC) Universe
Mobile Suit Gundam
0080: War in the Pocket
08th MS Team
0083: Stardust Memory
Z Gundam
ZZ Gundam
Char's Counterattack(movie)
Gundam F-91(movie)
V Gundam
G Saviour(movie)

Future Century(FC) Universe
Mobile Fighter G Gundam

After Colony(AC) Universe
New Mobile Suit Report Gundam Wing
New Mobile Suit Report Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz(movie)

Correct Century(CC) Universe
∀ Gundam

Cosmic Era(CE) Universe
Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Astray
Gundam Seed Destiny

That pretty much covers everything, oh and Naruto sucks.

^^ thanks man. where can i dl all those movies and stuff? do u recomend any ones which i should watch?

[Last Exile Gear]

^^ thanks man. where can i dl all those movies and stuff? do u recomend any ones which i should watch?

Right now, you cant DL anything but Gundam Evolve, Gundam Seed Astray, Gundam Seed Destiny, Gundam X, Gundam ZZ. Everything else you can either get on DVD or it hasnt been licensed in America yet.

My suggestions are...

08th MS Team
0083: Stardust Memory
Gundam Wing/Endless Waltz(although many dislike it, it's a good starter)
Gundam Seed/Destiny(duh)
Gundam F-91
Z Gundam
ZZ Gundam
Char's Counterattack

Dont watch Gundam X or G Gundam, both are terrible.

[Force]

lol. ok... well those ones u listed... can i dl them or shall i rent them out? also what are these-

# SD Gundam MkI
# SD Gundam MkII
# SD Gundam MkIV
# SD Gundam's Counterattack

um... so is gundam evolve shit? wehats gundam zz? is that the same as zz gundam? why is gundam x bad? i saw some on tv before and i thought the story line was ok... altho it moved too slow and i ddnt like the picture/animation lol

[Last Exile Gear]

lol. ok... well those ones u listed... can i dl them or shall i rent them out? also what are these-

# SD Gundam MkI
# SD Gundam MkII
# SD Gundam MkIV
# SD Gundam's Counterattack

um... so is gundam evolve shit? wehats gundam zz? is that the same as zz gundam? why is gundam x bad? i saw some on tv before and i thought the story line was ok... altho it moved too slow and i ddnt like the picture/animation lol


Like I said, the only ones you can DL are Gundam Evolve, Gundam Seed Astray, Gundam Seed Destiny, Gundam X, Gundam ZZ. ZZ Gundam and Gundam ZZ are the same thing.

SD Gundam is these little joke movies where all the characters are chibi. You wont get the jokes though since you havent seen any of the UC universe series/movies. And Gundam X is terrible because it has a terrible script, a poor plot, and mundane char animation. And it's impossible you saw any of X on TV, unless you were in Japan or the International channel showed it.

[Force]

oh... maybe im thinking of gundam wing, lol. the one with that 'heero' guy,lol. well thanks man... im checking google for a couple of sites to dl from. since we are talking about anime... um whats evagelion? whats the story about? is it good? alot of ppl seem to like it.lol.... hope u dont mind answering my questions,lol

[Last Exile Gear]

oh... maybe im thinking of gundam wing, lol. the one with that 'heero' guy,lol. well thanks man... im checking google for a couple of sites to dl from. since we are talking about anime... um whats evagelion? whats the story about? is it good? alot of ppl seem to like it.lol.... hope u dont mind answering my questions,lol

Instead of spamming up this thread, just IM me. My sn is Namuh Ton Eryeht.

[Mith252000]

It is from Gunota.

According to Amiami Trading Card & Hobby's solicitation for the Freedom Gundam MSiA, the Freedom will appear in DESTINY starting "from around the beginning of the 2nd coul", which would be from episode 14 onward.

This is contrary to a previous item that appeared in issue 44 of Weekly The Television magazine, in which an anonymous production staff member was quoted as saying, "Since Freedom was flying above when the stray bullets killed Shinn's family, there's a possibility of Shinn hating the Freedom. But the OP is only an image. Rebuilding a seriously-damaged Freedom is unrealistic."

[CrakinCapn]

www.bittornado.com

www.suprnova.org

[Potatos_Are_God]

http://students.washington.edu/viper102/part2.html That site has 2 episodes of Gundam Seed Destiny and it opens it directly on your Windows Media Player so I dont know if there is a way to save it on your comp from them. They also have episodes of Beck and Bleach which i also recommend.

[jmaster14656]

Below is a direct link to the raw of Episode 4. Enjoy!

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2964/Gundam%20Seed%20Destiny%20Episode%2004%20[Raw].torrent

[Mith252000]

Here is the sub version of episode 4 done by SEED-fansubs.

http://seed.eatshoe.com/

[Mith252000]

Here is the sub version of episode 4 done by Aone and Anime Kingdom.

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_04_%5B13ED8C17%5D.avi.torrent

[Mith252000]

This is the preview of episode 5 to 8.

EP 5 - "Unhealing Wounds": the preview says everything... By the way, a new term - 'Meteor Breaker'.

EP 6 - "When the World Ends" :The crew discovers a band of people driving Ginns who's trying to alter U7's course. Asuran and friends head towards U7 to help Isaac's team, but only to run into the 3 G's.

EP 7 - "The Chaotic Earth": Basically, Minerva goes out on its own to fire some nasty beam weapon to burn up the pieces of U7. Of course, the mission succeeds but Minerva's set for a trip to earth via gravity pull.

EP 8 - "Junction":Minerva crew arrives at "Platform" (I think this appeared in one of the Astray episodes), and Kagari is greeted by Yuuna's hug (looks like someone new). Asuran does not look too happy.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

OMG!! im new to anime and manga and stuff. and i have seen the 1st 3 episodes of gundam seed destiny.... and they were AWESOME!!! does anywone know where i can get more? are there any sites where i can dl ALL the episodes from? apparently there was a series b4 destiny... what was it and where can i get it?

im dlin gundam seed astray.... the red and blue frame. what are the differences in the colours? what is it about. is astray b4 destiny?

( and omg!! that end tune to destiny is awesome even tho i dont understand japanese,lol)

also what are these and what are the differences? do they continue on from each other?

# Gundam Evolve
# Gundam SEED Astray
# Gundam Seed Destiny
# Gundam X
# Gundam ZZ

um... i also read naruto manga from narutofan.com :P
Also Gundam Seed is before Destiny. I suggest you watch that before you watch Destiny any more. As for Astray, there is no technical difference between Red and Blue Frame. The difference is in how the pilots utilize them i.e. Red Frame can equip a one-of-a-kind Heat Shotel(sword) while Blue Frame can equip wide variety of equipment (Zaft bazooka, shoulder rockets, even underwater equipment)

And you should just dl all the available Gundam series from Animesuki.com

[Mith252000]

Hmm, it seems that Yunna is the son of the interim leader of ORB who return power to Cagalli. No wonder Athrun is unhappy!

[Force]

ok. well i have now watched both the red and blue fram astray episodes... are there any more of the episodes that continue or is astray just a one off couple of episodes with no meaning?

http://seed.eatshoe.com/
^^ oh and thats where i get my destiny stuff :P

um u said to watch SEED first..... is it simply called Gundam Seed? ill have a look around for it. is gundam x related to any of destiny. is gundam wing, gundam x?



oh also hu or what is 'freedom'?? is itr a gundam?


According to Amiami Trading Card & Hobby's solicitation for the Freedom Gundam MSiA, the Freedom will appear in DESTINY starting "from around the beginning of the 2nd coul", which would be from episode 14 onward.

^ can some one explain that to me in english?? LOL

[jmaster14656]

Responses are in order of question asked (see previous) -

1.) Yes, the series Gundam SEED debuted in November 2002 on Japanese television. A 're-interpretation' of the original Mobile Suit Gundam (circa 1985), SEED featured all-new characters, ten new Gundams, stunning animation and a storyline that just demanded a sequel (hence DESTINY). It ran for approximately 50 episodes, mixing intensely powerful battle sequences with a philosophically provoking, emotionally involving plot. The story and character development are solid, so things like a character's death bring pangs of sympathy (or whoops of joy; varies from person to person).

In short, a lot of the stuff referenced in DESTINY happens in SEED, and the OVA special (ASTRAY) shares certain locations with it. SEED is a must-see, but you're not missing much if you pass on ASTRAY.

2.) Gundam X is an independant series, unrelated to either SEED, DESTINY, or WING. Neither licensed nor slated for release on American shores, check out AnimeSuki if you're interested.

3.) FREEDOM is one of the two uber-powerful Gundams from the SEED series (the other being JUSTICE), which were introduced in episodes 35 & 36 respectively. Both developed after the first five, their nuclear-powered engines make them virtually unstoppable in combat. To avoid further spoilers, watch SEED whenever possible!

More Information -

4.) Since it's now licensed by Sunrise in the US, torrents for SEED are rather difficult to find. SuprNova.org has large episode packages if you're a subtitle purist like myself.

5.) Toonami is now showing SEED weekly on Friday night at 1:00 AM, so set your VCR to tape! Currently around Episode 30.

6.) RECOMMENDED: If you don't have the time to download the whole thing, episodes 23-25 are video summaries of the first half of the series. The episode package for 26-50 finishes out the saga.


Hope this is useful! If this is too much, I'll try to keep it short in the future. Just post if you need anything else.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

In addition to the response of the questions asked by Force:

1.) ASTRAY is primarily a manga. the little vids for red and blue frame are just extras. However, the manga itself is interesting, seeing as they relate in a certain way to Gundam SEED

2) *no response*

3) Apparently, Freedom is the more powerful of the two nuclear-powered gundams, citing the 4 built-it cannons on the Freedom, as opposed to the two on the Justice's detachable subflight pack system.

Now refering to the Amiami Trading Card & Hobby's quote, apparently they are saying that Kira's Freedom will make an appearance in ep 14 of G-SEED Destiny

AND ON A SIDE NOTE....mucho props to Mith252000 for keeping me, at least, updated on G-SEED Destiny. Thx for the updates

[Mith252000]

Here is the raw of episode 5.

http://bt1.greedland.net/download.php?btId=115874

[Mith252000]

Here is the sub of episodem 5 done by Aone and Anime Kingdom. Never expected to see the relationship between the captain and the Chairman.

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_05_%5B7730968D%5D.avi.torrent

[jmaster14656]

Two quick responses:

1.) How early does greedland have the RAW files up? I know each episode airs on Saturday on MBS Japan, but the files have been lagging lately. Myself and a few of my fellow japanese students are starting a subtitle translation project, and we'd like to have them as early as possible.

2.) They're called "spoilers" for a reason. Please, wait a few days before discussing new content on the forum.

[Mith252000]

Well, the first raw from greedland would appear 1.5 hours to 2 hours after the end of the show.

[Force]

Never expected to see the relationship between the captain and the Chairman.

^^ hahaha same here,lol..


and omg thank u soo much jmaster14656 and ewok. u cleared up aLOT. i will def go get those seed episodes. and i wud watch them... but i never have tome to watch tv and my sis always hogs it and im getting sky taken away so no more toonami anyway,lol. i gues i will try suprnova ( but the site doesnt work for me 3/4 of the time , i have the same problem with msn.com, hotmail.com and microsoft.com,lol)

well thanks for filling me in. btw how long do bittorents normally take with a adsl connection? because i am dlin farcry and CoD and theres going at like 1kb.... so slow...... :( and dlin gundam seed estiny takes like..... 12 hours for me... is that normal? is there a way to make the dls dl faster?

[Mith252000]

Well, it will get longer if you download it at a much later date. The earlier you dl, the faster it is. Mine takes 2 hours as I download it the moment it pops out.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

mine takes like 30-45 min. so the earlier u dl it, the faster it goes

[jmaster14656]

First off, your site problem is probably due to spyware infestations. Go here to download a program to fix it. This should not only allow you access to SuprNova, MSN, etc. uninhibited, but also increase your download speed.

Second, when using BitTorrent, the estimated time will vary frequently. Download speed depends entirely on the number of sources (seeds) available, their upload speeds, and the number of downloaders (leeches) connected to the tracker. As you leave the window open, more sources should connect, leeches will finish and exit, and your speed should generally increase.

[jmaster14656]

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

This or Google.com search "Ad-Aware." Good luck!

[PsychoPenguin]

Why do we need a whole thread for this?! animesuki.com there, you have gundam seed

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Download speed depends entirely on the number of sources (seeds) available, their upload speeds, and the number of downloaders (leeches) connected to the tracker. As you leave the window open, more sources should connect, leeches will finish and exit, and your speed should generally increase.
Usually, u get the most sources when it initially comes out, because evryone wants to get it, and consequently more sources an stuff...

[Mith252000]

http://tracker.saiyaman.info/btfiles/[SaiyaMan]_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_6_RAW.avi.torrent

Raw of episode 6. Enjoy!

[Force]

First off, your site problem is probably due to spyware infestations. Go here to download a program to fix it. This should not only allow you access to SuprNova, MSN, etc. uninhibited, but also increase your download speed.


^^ omg. i cnt believe i ddnt think of that. hahaha. thanks. i have adaware se so ill scan now.

um.. also isnt raw files the untranslated ones with no subs? i cant understand japanese/chinese so um... i got mine here-

http://seed.eatshoe.com/


edit- ok...... i checked everything... but ddnt help... but omg!!! i searched addware not spyware... damn off i go again, hahahaha

edit- ok... suprona and hotmail wont work :( any ideas?????

edit- wow. i saw eps 6 of destiny. it was really gd... i wish i had watched seed 1st,lol. who is kira? and what was all that talk about the zala guy?

[Mith252000]

Kira was the main character of SEED. He is known as a crybaby but also is a great fighter. Well, Patrick Zala who is the father of Athrun Zala, is an extreme coordinator with the ideology that coordinators are the new humans and do not need Naturals thus resulting in the creation of Genesis to destro Earth. Well, of course, it was destroyed with Patrick killed. Hmm, those terrorist were idiots to support his ideology.Oh dear, it seems that Vatican City would be destroyed.

[Mith252000]

New info from Gunota headlines.

From this month's hobby mags and Gundam Ace, the Windam, the Earth Alliance's next main forces MS (appears starting from episode 9). Like the Dagger L, Windam has the option to be equipped with various Striker packs.

Also revealed is the first official DESTINY MSV, the ZGMF-X999A Zaku Mass-Production Trial Type.

Finally, from DESTINY ASTRAY, the custom Raysta of the new character, Yun Zefan.

[Force]

thanks mith for clearing that up,lol.... i should have watched seed first,lol

[Aegis]

episodes are coming out way too slow, they're starving my mind

[Mith252000]

RAW of episode 7.

http://tracker.saiyaman.info/btfiles/[SaiyaMan]_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_7_RAW.avi.torrent

If it doesn't work, go to this site for the link.

http://www.saiyaman.info/bt/

[Force]

is raw in jap? do they hv subs?

[Mith252000]

Well, raws are the episodes with no subs. By the way, the subs are not out yet.

[Aegis]

at their airing rate, i'm content with raw
anyone know what they were arguing about? shin should shut the **** up, no one cares if he hates orb. he should shut up about it if he hates it so much

[Mith252000]

Well, sometimes, I am fine with the argument made by Shin other than the one blaming the Attha's for the death of his family. i am sure Kira or anyone can change him. Anyway, here is the sub of episode 7 done by SEED-fansub. Enjoy!

http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2007.avi.torrent

[Mith252000]

Well, the only thing I can say is that episode 7 rocks. Hope episode 8 is as interesting. Fake Lacus, show yourself!

[Force]

do raws have no subs?

is arthrun a coordinator?
is that princess person a natural?
is the guy with the cat a natural?
is that spokesman who talks and stuff a coordinator?
what did patrick zala want? what did he say?
are the crew of the spaceship coordinators?

[Crazy_Ewok83]

episodes are coming out way too slow, they're starving my mind

Most downloads take a week to sub and stuff. I dled the whole gundam seed series when it was out, and that took FOREVER....

now relating to this post
do raws have no subs?

is arthrun a coordinator?
is that princess person a natural?
is the guy with the cat a natural?
is that spokesman who talks and stuff a coordinator?
what did patrick zala want? what did he say?
are the crew of the spaceship coordinators?the easiest and IMHO best way to learn those is to watch the series itself. i.e. buy online (not Ebay cause they suck HARD) or go to nearest japanese place and buy it. trust me.

[Mith252000]

do raws have no subs?

is arthrun a coordinator?
is that princess person a natural?
is the guy with the cat a natural?
is that spokesman who talks and stuff a coordinator?
what did patrick zala want? what did he say?
are the crew of the spaceship coordinators?

Well, here are the answers.
Raws have no subs.

-Yes he is
-Yes, Cagalli is a Natural
-Yes, he is the leader of the Blue Cosmos, who is a group of Naturals who wants to eliminate coordinators
-Well, who are you referring too? Which faction?
-He wanted to create a new world where coordinators are the new humans.
-Is it Minerva you are talking about? Then yes, they are coordinators

[jmaster14656]

Here's the raw for episode 8, courtesy of greedland: http://bt.greedland.net/download.php?btId=124128

And the one from saiyaman: http://www.saiyaman.info/bt/download.php?id=22&file=%5BSaiyaMan%5D+Gundam+SEED+Destiny+8+RAW.avi. torrent

Happy viewing!

[Force]

thanks mith. i just wanted to make sure. the spokesman guy i wus talking about wus..... us.... that guy.... he was the one with the relationship to the cptain of the minerva...

[Mith252000]

No, he is not a spokeperson. He is the Chairman/leader of ZAFT/PLANT.

[Force]

^^ lol. thats what i meant. so is he a natural? i think hes a coordinator. am i right?

[NodMan]

And here is #8 by A-Kingdom & AonE.
Gundam SEED Destiny 8 (http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_08_%5BD2561BFC%5D.avi.torrent)

[Mith252000]

^^ lol. thats what i meant. so is he a natural? i think hes a coordinator. am i right?

Of course he is a coordinator. Hmm, it seems that war breaks out between ZAFT and EA in episode 9.

[Force]

whoa! well.... i gues the war was only to be expected. eps 8 was really beautiful!!!!! man i wana see seed really bad... i just dont have nuf space on ma comp to dl it :( ( cnt afford more space :( )

[Mith252000]

Hmmm, the question now that you do not have the space, why not buy it? I am sure the first DVD is out. Hmm, seriously, ZAFT has a new warship that is so huge compare the others. I wonder what its name is.

[wufeimaxwell]

I'm a newbie to the whole Gundam scene ... is the series in english or is it fansubbed ? Any direct download or bittorent links for this series or Gundam Wing ?

[Force]

gundam seed destiny dls-

http://seed.eatshoe.com/

gundam seed dls ( watch these b4 u watch destiny so ull understand destiny better)-

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2690&page=1&pp=10

btw... if u dont understand jap then DONT dl RAW files ok? btw those links are for bittorrent dls ;)

hope i helped a bit :P

[wufeimaxwell]

Problem getting response info No such file or directory

[Mith252000]

Ok, for episode 9 raw, it is out. Sorry for the delay. My home PC chrashed. Using my laptop.

http://saiyaman.info/bt/download.php?id=67&file=%5BSaiyaMan%5D+Gundam+SEED+Destiny+9+RAW.avi. torrent

[Aegis]

hey mith, can you send me the seed destiny promos/trailers? there doesn't seem to be any more seeds or peers for the torrent

[NodMan]

Here is Gundam SEED Destiny 9 by SEED Fansubs
Gundam SEED Destiny 9 (http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2009.avi.torrent)

[Force]

i thought the start of eps 9 was a bit boring,lol. the ending was gd. but i ddnt know which which gundam units were zaft and which wer eplant ( is plant coordinator and zaft natural? or is it the other way around or am i talking total nonsense?)

is that girl at the end of eps 9 the same one which was seen through the series? who is she? is she from seed? what has she got to do with athrun?

btw here are the 'proper' downloads dor the seed series-

http://www.boxtorrents.com/details.php?id=10121

[NodMan]

That girl I think is the lady Arthrun was going to marry in SEED, not sure though I didn't watch all of SEED since it had its action and no action points which sometimes was the whole Episode.

[Mith252000]

Well, actually, Lacus, Athrun's fiance before he went for Cagalli is in ORB with Kira and a couple of children. The one at the ending is an imposter who could have been used by ZAFT as a propaganda tool. The real name seems to be Mia Campbell.

[Force]

^^ how do u know its an imposter :O

[envagelion666]

i found my pics on google. there are alot of gundum pics and downloads...

^_^

[Mith252000]

^^ how do u know its an imposter :O

Well, that is because the original Lacus is not as bubbly and not have boobs that big. The hairpin is also different than her usual.

[jmaster14656]

Rie Tanaka (Lacus' seiyuu, or voice actress) has made a full recording of the DESTINY song "Fields of Hope." Here's the URL.

http://bt.greedland.net/download.php?btId=129522

It's so beautiful. *tear*

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Nipponsei released GSEED OST IV and GSEED DESTINY OST. for those who are interested. gseed ost iv contains tv versions of ops and eds and some orchestral pieces for the last couple of episodes. gseed destiny ost contains fields of hope by rie tanaka and the instrumentals heard throughout the series.

i would put up the link but im an ass and im too lazy to help others. sorry.
ask me on aim and i will give it to you if you really need it.

[Mith252000]

Ok, for episode 10 raw, it is out yesterday but got a few problems. Sorry for the delay. Here is the link.

http://www.saiyaman.info/bt/download.php?id=100&file=%5BSaiyaMan%5D+Gundam+SEED+Destiny+10+RAW.avi .torrent

[blue_whale_20]

i went to http://seed.eatshoe.com/ but i dont konw what program to open it on to im so lost




QUOTE=Force]First off, your site problem is probably due to spyware infestations. Go here to download a program to fix it. This should not only allow you access to SuprNova, MSN, etc. uninhibited, but also increase your download speed.


^^ omg. i cnt believe i ddnt think of that. hahaha. thanks. i have adaware se so ill scan now.

um.. also isnt raw files the untranslated ones with no subs? i cant understand japanese/chinese so um... i got mine here-

http://seed.eatshoe.com/


edit- ok...... i checked everything... but ddnt help... but omg!!! i searched addware not spyware... damn off i go again, hahahaha

edit- ok... suprona and hotmail wont work :( any ideas?????

edit- wow. i saw eps 6 of destiny. it was really gd... i wish i had watched seed 1st,lol. who is kira? and what was all that talk about the zala guy?[/QUOTE]

[Mith252000]

Well, SEED fansubs has not done it yet. Aone has done it though. Here it is.

http://a.scarywater.net/aone/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_10_%5B6182906B%5D.avi.torrent

[NodMan]

Here is the one from SEED Fansubs :D

Gundam SEED Destiny 10 (http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2010.avi.torrent)

Also a few screens to give some people some insite ;)

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9470/seed18ua.jpg
http://img88.exs.cx/img88/6624/seed26cc.jpg
http://img88.exs.cx/img88/9758/seed38lm.jpg

[Mith252000]

Some info from Gunota Headlines

Orb Escape Epic Battle! 1
Dagger L
"Equipped with the Jet Striker, they attack from the skies."

Windam
"The Earth Alliance's newest mass-production model MS. Excelling in mobility, it nimbly swoops down."

Blaze Zaku Warrior
"Equipped with the high-mobility Blaze Wizard, it confronts the enemy!"

Leg Flyer
"To provide backing for the damaged Impulse, the Leg Flyer is sent out from the Minerva."

Also shown: Blaze Zaku Phantom, Minerva

Orb Escape Epic Battle! 2
"The neutral Orb having become partners with the Earth Alliance, Minerva departs Onogoro Island. But on their way out, the Earth Alliance's MS forces had been waiting with their main unit, the latest model MA Zamzazar!"

Impulse Gundam
"The Impulse facing the huge Zamzazar while its leg is destroyed. But there's still a great number of foes!"

Zamzazar
"It moves over the water swiftly. With huge claws and many powerful cannons it also carries equipment which deflects Minerva's main armaments."

Freedom Gundam Restored!
"Kira and company, realizing that Lacus & Cagalli were in danger, rush out of Orb for the sake of travelling on their own path of righteousness but Orb's army tries to prevent that."

Freedom Gundam
"The machine Kira flew in the war 2 years ago. Possessing nuclear power, it's a high-power MS and can also shoot down enemies in all directions at once."

Murasame
"Orb's new mass-produced MS. It chases the Freedom, which took Cagalli away..."

Archangel
"Murrue, Waltfeld and others fly away on the Archangel, which had been hidden."

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Some info from Gunota Headlines

Orb Escape Epic Battle! 2
"The neutral Orb having become partners with the Earth Alliance, Minerva departs Onogoro Island. But on their way out, the Earth Alliance's MS forces had been waiting with their main unit, the latest model MA Zamzazar!"

Impulse Gundam
"The Impulse facing the huge Zamzazar while its leg is destroyed. But there's still a great number of foes!"

Zamzazar
"It moves over the water swiftly. With huge claws and many powerful cannons it also carries equipment which deflects Minerva's main armaments."

Freedom Gundam Restored!
"Kira and company, realizing that Lacus & Cagalli were in danger, rush out of Orb for the sake of travelling on their own path of righteousness but Orb's army tries to prevent that."

Freedom Gundam
"The machine Kira flew in the war 2 years ago. Possessing nuclear power, it's a high-power MS and can also shoot down enemies in all directions at once."

Murasame
"Orb's new mass-produced MS. It chases the Freedom, which took Cagalli away..."

Archangel
"Murrue, Waltfeld and others fly away on the Archangel, which had been hidden."


ok WHAT? that makes no sense whatsoever. it might happen in 5-10 episodes and i know gunota is legit but WHAT??!?!?

[Mith252000]

ok WHAT? that makes no sense whatsoever. it might happen in 5-10 episodes and i know gunota is legit but WHAT??!?!?

Actually, this is what would happen in episode 11, 12 or even 13.

[SuperBread]

Well the announcement on that pic you showed about the 1 hour special seems to not have happened. :( either that or the fansubbers haven't finished editing it. That picture was like from episode 9 wasn't it?

[Mith252000]

Err, I believe that the one-hour thing has not been released yet. It is aired this Saturday in Japan. There is the fake Lacus. The name is Mia. She openly told Athrun her real name.

[SuperBread]

Well the announcement on that pic you showed about the 1 hour special seems to not have happened. :( either that or the fansubbers haven't finished editing it. That picture was like from episode 9 wasn't it?
3:34 P.M.
Opps sorry I just took a second look at the pictures, they are actually from like ep.10.

[Mith252000]

Yup, they are from episode 10. Hmm, it seems that Cagalli would be forced to marry Yunna, the purple-haired rep in episode 13. Got this from seed-forum.

[SuperBread]

really? which thread did u read that?
That purple haired dude is weird....

[Force]

purple hair?!?!?! yikes uv lost me already,lol.

[Mith252000]

Hello, this is just a rumour. it could be just a rumour after all.

[SuperBread]

Hello, this is just a rumour. it could be just a rumour after all.
cagalli marrying the purple haired guy could be a rumor but the fact that he is an actual character is not

[Mith252000]

Hmm, alright then, consider two scenarios. One with Cagalli who decides to leave Orb. The other, she stays in Orb and has to marry Yunna. I rather choose the first choice.

[Force]

lol.... does any1 know when the next seed eps is coming??? are the translators off fo christmas??

[Mith252000]

Hmm, we would have to wait for another few hours or so. Anyway, episode 11 & 12 was awesome. Go watch it when the subs are out.

[NodMan]

Here is 11 by SEED Fansubs they haven't finished 12 yet.

Gundam SEED Destiny 11 (http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2011.avi.torrent)

[Force]

aw man im confused again,lol... is ZAFT the coordinates.. which r the guys in space?

and is PLANT the earth guys which r naturals...

but the who are the earth alliance?
and whos the atlantic federation/... r they the guys hu want a war and launched the nuclear missiles? and are orb an independant island nation?

and the 2 bodyguards of arthrun in eps 11.... theyre from PLANT right? so who is arthrun on... orb? but if he is with orb why is he away from the orb people?

and who are those guys that cpntacted the minerva on the radio and told it to launch? are they from the last war? r they coordinators?

[SuperBread]

oh boy... anyway,

Q:aw man im confused again,lol... is ZAFT the coordinates.. which r the guys in space?

A: Yes, they are but now I'm not so sure about all of them.

Q:and is PLANT the earth guys which r naturals...

A:No, Plant is the place in which Coordinators live.


Q:but the who are the earth alliance?

A:The Naturals.

Q:and whos the atlantic federation/... r they the guys hu want a war and launched the nuclear missiles?

A:I think they were the ones who wanted the war and launched the nuclear missles. Not sure who they are though.

Q:and are orb an independant island nation?

A:Its independant and netural.

Q:and the 2 bodyguards of arthrun in eps 11.... theyre from PLANT right?

A:Yes.

Q:so who is arthrun on... orb? but if he is with orb why is he away from the orb people?

A:I think he is now but in Gundam Seed he was with Zaft. Athrun is at Plant because he believes there is something he can do there to help prevent the war and change people's minds who still thought his father's ideals were right.

Q:and who are those guys that contacted the minerva on the radio and told it to launch?

A:The woman is Maria Ramirez, the previous captain of Archangel. The man w/ the cane is the Desert Tiger who Kira met at around the time he met Cagalli. Only he is a coordinator.

[Vectorspace]

PLANT is the name of the space colony group that is the home of the coordinators. ZAFT is the name of PLANT's military.

The Earth Alliance is an alliance of nations on Earth - the nations that oppose PLANT. They attacked PLANT with nukes in Gundam SEED and now in Gundam SEED Destiny.
The Atlantic Federation is a nation on earth - consisting of (among others) the UK and North America
Orb is a nation encompassing several islands in the pacific ocean. Orb has always maintained a neutral stance.

Athrun was a originally a soldier in ZAFT. He defected to Orb/The Clyne Faction late during Gundam SEED. After the war in Gundam SEED ended, he assumed an alias and went to Orb with Cagalli.
Athrun's 2 bodyguards are Yzak and Dearka - both ZAFT soldiers. In Gundam SEED they were the pilots of Duel Gundam and Buster Gundam respectively, and part of the force that Athrun lead early in Gundam SEED.

The people who told Minerva to launch were Murrure Ramius (The captain of the battleship Archangel in Gundam SEED) and Andrew Bartfield (a.k.a The Desert Tiger -the commander of the PLANT forces in Africa and later captain of the battleship Eternel in Gundam SEED).

Please excuse the name spellings if they are wrong... Everyone spells them differently.

So, if ep 12 aired at the same time as ep 11, does anyone know when we can expect a fansub of it?

[NodMan]

Here is #12 by SEED Fansubs.

Gundam SEED Destiny 12 (http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2012.avi.torrent)

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

SPOILERS AHEAD

what about that. Kira Yamato returns in episode 13 freedom is "ressurrected" when ORB is attacked.

mith you were right. by golly episode 12 was the best ever.

wow. with shinn being a super coordinator and everything and him killing off basically the entire fleet and JESUS CHRIST. i was wishing he would kill of the orb fleet to fly and kick yuna's pompus spoiled corrupted ass

i mean you basically see he's marrying cagalli for the damn power.

anyway i wonder what kira will do after his little eruption from ORB, think he'll join the minerva?

[Mith252000]

Hmm, it seems likely. However there is a possibility that Archangel is going to be used. I just have a bad feeling a huge fight is going to occur between Kira and Shin....

[NodMan]

12 was awsome, Shinn just kicked the Earth Forces asses :D We will see about all that in 13 now wont we :P

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Hmm, it seems likely. However there is a possibility that Archangel is going to be used. I just have a bad feeling a huge fight is going to occur between Kira and Shin....

i agree, especially if shinn finds otu that it's kira who killed his family. but i also think someone will be there to stop them (most likely athrun with his new saviour but with that stated, i highly doubt that a HUGE fight will occur, just a couple of exchange of blows. unless athrun dies O_O). it's likely that they will fight on the same side with minerva flying like the next archangel, much like dullindal said. and yes the possibility of the ressurrection of archangel is also likely, i actually like to see the archangel fly side by side with minerva, but there's just the problem of crew. i dont see how if orb is holding the archangel (which if that occurs probably is) how they would klet them side with minerva who's on the zaft side, it would take some pretty crafty betraying, and it would also mean betraying cagalli, which i highly doubt ramius and wartfield would want to do. but like this freedom resurrection has showed us, anything is possible. i was amazed at how they managed to actually made the resurrection fit in teh story line.

[NodMan]

Wait wait, when did Kira kill Shinn's family? XD All I saw was Shinn reachin for his sister's cell phone and then the explosion that killled his family...

[Mith252000]

Wait wait, when did Kira kill Shinn's family? XD All I saw was Shinn reachin for his sister's cell phone and then the explosion that killled his family...

Well, in episode 1, it is shown Kira firing at Calamity which may have hit Shin's family.

[6u63]

Holy MotherF-ckers. Episode 12 is the motherf-cken greatest.

[Aegis]

well i doubt there'll be big fights... probably shinn gets pissed off about (PROBABLY) cagalli being on the archangel which escaped and kira has to go out and set his ass straight.
i also doubt that IF archangel also appears that they would join the minerva... think of the storyline, there's probably gonna be like 45 eps and we're on like 13.
i mean... if they do join forces... then we got that weak storyline thing happenin again like in gundamx where everyone's all friends and happy cruisin around kickin ass

[Vectorspace]

Shinn finally did the SEED thing! About time!

The Archangel is going to be in Destiny - at least if the opening credits are anything to go by. Probably commanded by Ramius and Bartfield.

But then, we never did see what happened to the Archangel - we don't even know if Orb have it. Ramius and Bartfield probably stashed it somewhere at the end of the war without handing it over to Orb.

The 1st ep strongly suggests that it was stray fire from Freedom that killed Shinn's family - you see Freedom do its 5-gun blast thing and the next instant the ground explodes behind Shinn. We can't be sure that it was Freedom, but Shinn will think so. He just doesn't know who the pilot is.

Kira wil probably drop in to save the Minerva (like he did with the Archangel when he first gets Freedom) and Shinn will recognise his mobile suit and fight him. I don't think Kira will join the Minerva - at least not for while. Shinn thinks Kira killed his family - he won't just change his tune inside a single ep.

[Mith252000]

Err, I forget to say that Gunota has confirmation that Archangel would appear.

[Force]

thanks superbread and vectorspace for clearing up my questions :P im dlin 12 now :P

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

well i doubt there'll be big fights... probably shinn gets pissed off about (PROBABLY) cagalli being on the archangel which escaped and kira has to go out and set his ass straight.
i also doubt that IF archangel also appears that they would join the minerva... think of the storyline, there's probably gonna be like 45 eps and we're on like 13.
i mean... if they do join forces... then we got that weak storyline thing happenin again like in gundamx where everyone's all friends and happy cruisin around kickin ass

totally incorrect, archangel and the minerva combined would not totally own any army, it woudl also mean the archangel has to join ZAFT, i highly doubt that anything like that would happen.

think of it this way

we have a ship with an inexperienced crew with super weapons. i mean there are probably only two guys that pulls their weight around on the minerva, and they can only do so much. (those two's ms piloting skills don't even compare to kira's and athrun's)

another thing, remember when athrun beat the crap out of the three stolen gundams with just the zaku when they were in space? think what kira would do to shinn when they fight, again there would be no competition, even if shinn seeded, because kira has a clear head and can seed himself.

next thing, we still don't know what kind of crew will pilot the archangel, gunota says they're coming so tehy're coming. but who's the crew?
i assume it's cagalli's supporters but even that's ahrd to pull off, we heard that the ORB ships firing on the minerva did not like their orders. but still.

what sudden plot twists. damn

[Aegis]

if archangel appears, there's a possibility that duel and buster gundam might show up also.. well in the last series they were last docked on the archangel
another thing: you might disagree, but i predict that kira would very likely die in this series, either that or freedom self destructs. there's a saying in theatre, you don't put a gun in a play and not use it... so i guess they intended to keep a nuclear MS from the last series for a purpose. it's also supported by "character" contrast that the justice was blown up. will kira die or get a new suit? fun thing to think about
by the way, if they do combine.. i doubt that the archangel has to join zaft, the chairman seems to be pretty carefree about saviour and minerva roaming free doing their own thing

[SuperBread]

not to go off topic sorta kinda from the archangel but do you guys think that Lacus will ever go back to PLANT and do her job there?

[Aegis]

probably not... since they got mia. i'm sure she'll have a major influence on shinn... speaking of which... shouldn't shinn have recognized at least lacus if not kira also by that tombstone?

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

if archangel appears, there's a possibility that duel and buster gundam might show up also.. well in the last series they were last docked on the archangel
another thing: you might disagree, but i predict that kira would very likely die in this series, either that or freedom self destructs. there's a saying in theatre, you don't put a gun in a play and not use it... so i guess they intended to keep a nuclear MS from the last series for a purpose. it's also supported by "character" contrast that the justice was blown up. will kira die or get a new suit? fun thing to think about
by the way, if they do combine.. i doubt that the archangel has to join zaft, the chairman seems to be pretty carefree about saviour and minerva roaming free doing their own thing


if kira is there, he is not forced to kami and die or what not, he is forced to hurt/damage/kill. i dont see how you can only use a gun by sacrificing yourself.

also on buster and duel, yzak and dearkka already have new mobile suits, the two new zaku's that they have (you have already seen them fight) are very much like the duel and buster, the new zaku yzak has holds a missile launcher, beam rifle and is painted blue, and the one buster has holds those two bigass bazookas that can fuse into one. (maybe he only holds one bigass one i forgot) so it is unlikely that they will return. plus yzak never boarded the archangel.

although the chairman lets the saviour and minerva flow freely, minerva and it's crew is still loyal to ZAFT. there is no way that i can see a revolution occur. if the archangel joins the minerva, they'll fight for peace under the name of zaft. it is not unlikely that the real lacus makes a deal or speaks with dullindal. it's true archangel won't join ZAFT, but they'll be under ZAFT supervision etc. or have ZAFT support. Everyone can see that ZAFT is in the right. Dullindal's ideals are not differnt from Lacus. not that much at least.

note- it is likely that i'm wrong. i go with the flow and how things should be done but gseed destiny, as things have already shown, likes to have major bigass plot twists, where kira might die, athrun might die. etc etc.

notice also how destiny isn't following and previous gundams, unlike how seed followed the original

kira=amuro
mask dude=char
archangel = ship
supporting flyers (such as mwu) = supporting ms's.
space to sea to base = space to sea to base
etc etc.


also, kira was under the radar of most people, no one knew who he was. Shinn should have recognized Lacus though.


sorry for my ranting and any feelings i may have hurt.


oh yeah, if my memory serves right, Gunoata said Archangel flies off with ramius and bartfield, im not sure if lacus goes but i'm pretty sure she does. Kira gets off ORB with Cagalli in the same cokpit/on archangel. from what i remember cagalli does get off ORB.

rofl, they wont let me type cokpit. legit cause of cok :lol: :lol:

[SuperBread]

When do you think they are going to show exactly what those 3 are? Somehow they don't seem human...
I kinda think they are experiment projects like how shanni,et. all were in seed(<<do i have to put this in white? i don't understand the concept of it...)

[Vectorspace]

I always assumed they were drug-enhanced naturals (like the 3 in Gundam SEED) but now I've thought about it I'm not so sure.

There's been references to some kind of mind control - Stellar freaks when one of the other pilots mentions death - this was later referred to as her 'block word'. And then there's time time when those 3 were lying in these pods with the multicoloured light show. They might be mind-controlled coordinators - Stellar wears a ZAFT uniform belt...

I think they are either coordinators who have been mind-controlled to fight on the Earth Alliance's side, or drug-enchanced naturals mind-controlled for some other reason (perhaps to overcome the drug's side-effects?)

[jmaster14656]

After a lot of thought, I decided that these three are probably specially-engineered coordinators designed for combat purposes. Zaft Chairman Dyurandaru (as written in katakana) mentioned that they "work better than the previous ones," meaning that this has probably been a project for some time now.

The resting stations may be merely to hold them until the next fight, or as mentioned by Vectorspace, devices that somehow maintain their loyalty. Then again, there's also the possibility that these "combat drones" (for lack of a better word) are imperfect, and need to rest in them each day in order to stay alive.

[Vectorspace]

Quote: jmaster14656
After a lot of thought, I decided that these three are probably specially-engineered coordinators designed for combat purposes. Zaft Chairman Dyurandaru (as written in katakana) mentioned that they "work better than the previous ones," meaning that this has probably been a project for some time now.
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It wasn't Dyurandaru who said that, it was Neo - the commander of the ship that stole the 3 Gundams (The guy in the black mask, who pilots the Mobile Armour that resembles a Moebuis Zero) . All the evidence suggests that this ship is part of Blue Cosmos (Episode 5 strongly suggests that that ship follows the orders of Blue Cosmos, and in ep 7 Blue Cosmos have images of the fall of Junuis 7 from the ship), but what you say suggests you think that they are a part of ZAFT. How did you come to that conslusion?

[Mith252000]

From the looks of it, they definitely work for the Blue Cosmos. What really makes you think they are working for ZAFT?

[SuperBread]

wasn't that guy w/ the mask on the earth alliance side? perhaps thats what you meant.

That mask guy and Rei both have that quick spark go off whenever they are near each other, like Kluze and Mwu. Could they somehow be clones of them or something? Coincidently they all have blond hair... o.0

Spoiler ahead:



















Since Kluze is already a clone can he be cloned again?

[Vectorspace]

Neo (The guy in the blask mask) looks awfully like Mwu La Flaga - and he pilots a mobile armour that looks a lot like Mwu's Moebius Zero...

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Neo (The guy in the blask mask) looks awfully like Mwu La Flaga - and he pilots a mobile armour that looks a lot like Mwu's Moebius Zero...

well that's the thing. he looks like mwu. he looks like klueze but he has connections with that zaku pilot (they've shown it when they fought. sorry i forgot the name.. long blonde hair. male. very proper) and he looks nothing like mwu. so we have to consider this is a second generation or a better series of clones that could be altered mwu dna or what not.

[SuperBread]

The really scary thing about that earth alliance guy w/ the mask is that he sounds A LOT like MWU!

[Crazy_Ewok83]

After a lot of thought, I decided that these three are probably specially-engineered coordinators designed for combat purposes. Zaft Chairman Dyurandaru (as written in katakana) mentioned that they "work better than the previous ones," meaning that this has probably been a project for some time now.

The resting stations may be merely to hold them until the next fight, or as mentioned by Vectorspace, devices that somehow maintain their loyalty. Then again, there's also the possibility that these "combat drones" (for lack of a better word) are imperfect, and need to rest in them each day in order to stay alive.

I wouldnt say that the three (Stella, Auda and Sting), are coordinators. My best conclusions lead me to believe that they are the next generation of "living CPUs" (the originals being Crot, Orga, and Shani from SEED) for use in the Alliance Military.

My reasoning is the quote relating to the current 3 like "they're alot better than the last bunch". Coordinators wouldn't make much sense, because 1) it would go against the Alliance's dogma (think Blue Cosmos motto: "for a blue and pure world") 2) coordinators would not work for the Alliance (well, for long at least) because of the Alliance's hate for coordinators, and 3) it is IMO practically impossible to improve on coordinators (coordinators are supposedly the best that can come out of the current gene pool).

Which leaves me to believe that the current 3 are the next gen "living CPUs". The pods in which Stella, Auda, and Sting were seen in are what i believe to be something like recovery pods. Since the 3 are "living CPUs", they have limits to their fighting prowess. While the 3 from SEED can maintain the coordinator-esque fighting level for only a few minutes, the 3 in Destiny can maintain it for much longer. And since the 3 in Destiny can maintain their fighting level for much longer, there must be a tradeoff somewhere, prolly an increased stress on the body. They prolly can't recover normaly like the 1st gen "living CPUs". Hence the "recovery" pods in ep 3. The block words that Stella has is IMO a sort of control that can be placed on the pilot. And based on what Neo says to the captain of "Bogey 1" (i don't kno its real name), I'm assuming that all 3 have them.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

The really scary thing about that earth alliance guy w/ the mask is that he sounds A LOT like MWU!
Can't we just say that he's a clone of Fraga, but alot better than what Klueze was to Fraga's father. And that Rey is like a younger version of Fraga.

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Which leaves me to believe that the current 3 are the next gen "living CPUs". The pods in which Stella, Auda, and Sting were seen in are what i believe to be something like recovery pods. Since the 3 are "living CPUs", they have limits to their fighting prowess. While the 3 from SEED can maintain the coordinator-esque fighting level for only a few minutes, the 3 in Destiny can maintain it for much longer. And since the 3 in Destiny can maintain their fighting level for much longer, there must be a tradeoff somewhere, prolly an increased stress on the body. They prolly can't recover normaly like the 1st gen "living CPUs". Hence the "recovery" pods in ep 3. The block words that Stella has is IMO a sort of control that can be placed on the pilot. And based on what Neo says to the captain of "Bogey 1" (i don't kno its real name), I'm assuming that all 3 have them.

Bogey 1 is aactually the minerva. so i'm lost. can you edit or repost what you're trying to say here. what does the Minerva have to do with block words?

also we have to notice that the three are downgraded from teh original three in seed.

remember how athrun easily cut through the leg of one of the three (i believe it was abyss) in just a zaku? it shows that these "super humans" are extremely downgraded. the same can be said of shinn and co. shinn even exclaims "this is the power of the veterens from teh past war." and shinn matches the three equally.


note to all. there is no gundam seed showing this week. the 13th episode comes out on teh 8th

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Bogey 1 is aactually the minerva. so i'm lost. can you edit or repost what you're trying to say here. what does the Minerva have to do with block words?

also we have to notice that the three are downgraded from teh original three in seed.

remember how athrun easily cut through the leg of one of the three (i believe it was abyss) in just a zaku? it shows that these "super humans" are extremely downgraded. the same can be said of shinn and co. shinn even exclaims "this is the power of the veterens from teh past war." and shinn matches the three equally.


In episode3, the Minerva locates an unidentified ship, which it then designates as "Bogey 1". Bogey 1's real name is the Girty Lue and it is the ship where Neo (AKA Fraga clone) and the 3 stolen ms are on. SO...Bogey 1 is not the Minerva.

I dont think the 3 are downgraded from the originals. Why would Neo say that they are much better than the previous group (the originals). And the only reason that Abyss and Chaos got owned in ep 5 was because they were outnumbered 3:2 and they were fighting against veterans/survivors of the last war, AND were former teammates of Asran (Yzak and Deakka) who also had Gundams in the last war and know how to work as a team. Dont forget, technology is nothing if you dont have the experience, which Asran, Yzak, and Deakka have alot of. And I dont think that Shinn matches Stella and company because in ep2 when all 3 stolen Gundams attacked at once, he almost got owned. Shinn only survived because Asran (in a Zaku) interfered at the last moment and stalled their attack.

[Aegis]

Fun fact:
if any of you ever played any of the super robot wars (alpha - alpha gaiden) series, there's a special spirit skill that quite alot of pilots have called (something like) sure-evade, which gives you (your pilot) the ability to evade completely in the next turn (next attack done on you). The animation of the skill is the quick spark that is almost the exact same thing as the quick spark that goes off when them fragas feel eachother's presence. also in ep49, mwu had that spark go off before completely dodging klueze's dragoon attack.

by the way, i'm not sure if anyone else has looked it up already, but mwu and neo has the same voice actor

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

In episode3, the Minerva locates an unidentified ship, which it then designates as "Bogey 1". Bogey 1's real name is the Girty Lue and it is the ship where Neo (AKA Fraga clone) and the 3 stolen ms are on. SO...Bogey 1 is not the Minerva.

sorry. i thought he meant that girty lue was naming minerva as bogey1 . i think they labeled teh minerva as bogey 1 also.



And the only reason that Abyss and Chaos got owned in ep 5 was because they were outnumbered 3:2 and they were fighting against veterans/survivors of the last war, AND were former teammates of Asran (Yzak and Deakka) who also had Gundams in the last war and know how to work as a team. .


exactly why i mean that they were downgraded. the previous three (calamity, raider, and wahtever the last one was) held athrun on a hold when he was in a GUNDAM. not not mention he was with KIRA in FREEDOM when that happened. you have your two best pilots being equalled by three guys. the new guys got owned by ZAKUS. Neo probably meant that they had more control over the three then the others. but their battle efficiency is worse. as proven by athrun and co. downgraded

thanks for proving my point ;)

[Crazy_Ewok83]

exactly why i mean that they were downgraded. the previous three (calamity, raider, and wahtever the last one was) held athrun on a hold when he was in a GUNDAM. not not mention he was with KIRA in FREEDOM when that happened. you have your two best pilots being equalled by three guys. the new guys got owned by ZAKUS. Neo probably meant that they had more control over the three then the others. but their battle efficiency is worse. as proven by athrun and co. downgraded

thanks for proving my point ;)

Then again, there was mention of them still going through optimization, so that could always change. And experience and teamwork will almost always beat better tech. Just And let me correct myself: Chaos and Abyss got beat separately, meaning all 3 attacked Abyss first, then Chaos, not both at the same time. Even Shinn almost got beat in a 3v1.

Case in point: Yzak/Deakka vs Abyss ep 5 i think(the Junius 7 eps). You seek Yzak slice through Abyss' trident, then you see Deakka slice through Abyss left leg coming from right angle to Yzak. Conclusion: Yzak and Deakka know the weak points of ms' and have the experience to know how to work together to get to those weak points.

Another Case in point: Chaos/Gaia/Abyss vs Impulse. In that first battle, you see them shooting and swinging at anything; you dont see them aiming at weak points like knee and shoulder joints like what Yzak/Deakka did. Conclusion: current 3, even Shinn are inexperienced in actual combat.

Conclusion: Yzak/Deakka>>Stella/Sting/Auda(i think thats his name) due to better experience.

I still dont think they were downgraded. the previous 3 (Forbidden, Raider, and Calamity) were indeed good, but in nearly every battle vs Kira/Asran, they quarreled each other, and in one battle they started fighting each other. that sounds like crappy battle efficiency to me. So they had to create some control over them. And its not really more control, just better control.And yes the first 3 did have control mechanisms on them, but they were based on how long they can fight. In alot of battles, they had to stop 'cause the (im guessing) strength enhancers ran out. And without those enhancers, they would be dead(see final eps of SEED). Whereas the control mechanisms over the current 3 doesn't affect combat performance as much; Stella was able to fight back after being triggered by (im guessing again) several block words. And we have yet to see the current 3 run from a battle, which leads me to believe their operating time is significantly longer,which was a significant problem with the original 3.

[Vectorspace]

I don't believe they were downgraded - they just lack experience. Even if you have perfect accuracy, if you don't know where to aim you're not going to win very easily. At the very least, they're more stable than the original 3 living CPU's.

They may be able to fight like the best coordinator pilots but, like some of you mentioned, experience always beats technology.

Athrun, Dearka, and Yzak are all very skilled (Athrun especially) and they have years of experience of mobile suit combat. Even if their oppinents are piloting better suits, they can't know how to pilot one as well as Athrun, Dearka, and Yzak do.

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Conclusion: current 3, even Shinn are inexperienced in actual combat.

Conclusion: Yzak/Deakka>>Stella/Sting/Auda(i think thats his name) due to better experience.

I still dont think they were downgraded. the previous 3 (Forbidden, Raider, and Calamity) were indeed good, but in nearly every battle vs Kira/Asran, they quarreled each other, and in one battle they started fighting each other. that sounds like crappy battle efficiency to me.






Athrun, Dearka, and Yzak are all very skilled (Athrun especially) and they have years of experience of mobile suit combat. Even if their oppinents are piloting better suits, they can't know how to pilot one as well as Athrun, Dearka, and Yzak do.

sorry. but you guys still don't understand my point.

lets put it out by shall we?

I AM WEIGHING BATTLE EFFICIENCY. IF THEY CAN GET THEIR JOB DONE both have never defeated athrun/kira/yzak/dearkka.

FREEDOM and JUSTICE were matched evenly by CALAMITY, RAIDER, and FORBIDDEN. They fight on ORB and eventually go to space.

this is probably Kira and Athrun's piloting skills pinnacle. They have super GUNDAMS and fight three people, yet they don't manage to defeat three GUNDAMS.

today.

THREE ZAKUS beat 1 or 2 GUNDAMS.

great they weren't controlled, they ahd limited time. etc. etc. etc. you also have to remember that kira and athrun wouldve DIED if they didn't have a time limit. they were just about to kill the two of them when their medication wore off.

it's simple

TWO SUPER GUNDAMS GO AGAINST 3 GUNDAMS. EVENLY MATCHED.

VS

TWO-THREE ZAKUS GO AGAINST 1/2 GUNDAMS. ZAKUS WIN.

the odds of piloting ability favor the first ones. it's shown right here. who cares about their teamwork or whta not. CALAMITY RAIDER AND FORBIDDEN didn't get extremely damaged or lose a lim to ZAKUS. they didn't even lose lims to GUNDAMS.

CALAMITY RAIDER FORBIDDEN WAS CLOSER TO GETTING THE JOB DONE THEN THE NEW THREE. sure they had a time limit and countless amounts of flaw but that least they were semi effective.

THE NEW THREE HAD TROUBLE KILLING SHINN ASUKA. A NEWBIE PILOT. they did NOT come CLOSE to getting the job done.

battle efficiency isn't about teamwork etc. etc.

if i can get a group of guys who come close to getting their job done without team work and always bickering. then i would take that group over a group who can't get close to getting the job done but don't bicker.

THAT IS MY POINT.

edit- oh yeah. on experience. let us assume that yzak athrun and dearkka have rusted a bit. or youc an even assume that they are what they were at the end of the war. then it wouldn't be a variable.

if you guys want me to clearify then feel free to ask. i think this is just facts. not opinion... so...

[Crazy_Ewok83]

it's simple

TWO SUPER GUNDAMS GO AGAINST 3 GUNDAMS. EVENLY MATCHED.

VS

TWO-THREE ZAKUS GO AGAINST 1/2 GUNDAMS. ZAKUS WIN.


Case1: Superior Tech(Nuclear Gundams) vs Superior numbers(Gen 2 Gundams). Winner: Superior Tech

Case2:Superior Numbers(Mass produced MS) vs Superior Tech(Gen 2(?)/Nuclear(?) Gundams). Winner: Superior numbers.

Similar cases, but different outcomes, why? In both cases, the deciding factor was the experience of the pilots. In case 1, the power of Freedom/Justice(with VETERAN pilots) was used to overpower superior numbers(but not as advanced tech, with fairly inexperienced pilots). In case 2, the pilots(VETERAN pilots) used superior numbers to outflank/outmaneuver an enemy with superior tech(inferior numbers, and fairly inexperienced pilots)



this is probably Kira and Athrun's piloting skills pinnacle. They have super GUNDAMS and fight three people, yet they don't manage to defeat three GUNDAMS.

today.

THREE ZAKUS beat 1 or 2 GUNDAMS.

great they weren't controlled, they ahd limited time. etc. etc. etc. you also have to remember that kira and athrun wouldve DIED if they didn't have a time limit. they were just about to kill the two of them when their medication wore off.

it's simple

Both are similar in a single aspect; both are lower tech/better numbers vs better tech/lower numbers. And lets not forget one thing; the first case is with GUNDAMS, meaning they can take trade off hits (maybe not as many hits with the Gen 2/TransPhase Shift Armor Gundams, but closer to nuclear gundams than mass produced suits and even Gen 1 Gundams). The second case is with GUNDAMS and mp(mas produced)MS. T be clear, MS that die is 1-2 hits/slice as opposed to Gen2 Gundams that are alot like nuclear gundams. Trading off hits BAD.

Also, Kira/Asran's exp allowed them to fight off the 3 OMNI Enforcer Gen 2 Gundams, whereas because of Sting/Auel's inexperience, they get owned hard.

On a side note, i recall in SEED where Duel(Gen 1 Gundam) faced off agains Forbidden and Raider(separately) (Gen2) in which Duel won the duels(I make funny!!!) Victory to the experienced again.

ON another side note, Yzak and Deakka have had lots o experience slicing off certain parts of other MS cause they have had their gundams sliced up (Yzak in particular, due to getting sliced up almost regularly by Kira in Strike/Freedom)

IN any case, we can see where a superior numbers vs better tech battle can go depending on where the experience is.



the odds of piloting ability favor the first ones. it's shown right here. who cares about their teamwork or whta not.
I think teamwork is very important. Without teamwork, you run into people, get into their line of fire, screw up their aim, and generally piss the other ppl off. And in 1 instance, Calamity, Forbidden and Raider started fighting EACH OTHER while fighting Freedom/Justice. It would have been easy then for Kira/Asran to take out any one of the three, if only they didnt start freaking out cause of no more "juice" and run home. And the current 3 didnt fight each other, not like the original 3.



CALAMITY RAIDER AND FORBIDDEN didn't get extremely damaged or lose a lim to ZAKUS. they didn't even lose lims to GUNDAMS.
I hope u mean they fought against GINNS, cause they never fought against Zakus. And in even that case, Ginns dont have the weapons to cut through Phase Shift Armor(ep 1 of SEED) or the pilots know what the weaknesses are. And I do recall the 3 losing limbs and/or having damaged equipment (I recall Freedom(?) pushing back the beam from Calamity's Scylla chest gun back to it, and messing up that gun in the process). And of course losing to Duel and Justice in the end eps.


THE NEW THREE HAD TROUBLE KILLING SHINN ASUKA. A NEWBIE PILOT. they did NOT come CLOSE to getting the job done. In ep2 they almost did. When Chaos, Gaia, and Abyss started ganging up on Impulse, Impulse got knocked down by Gaia. The finishing blow would have come from Abyss but Asran in Zaku shoulder charged Abyss, followed by a tomahawk throw to Gaia.



battle efficiency isn't about teamwork etc. etc.

if i can get a group of guys who come close to getting their job done without team work and always bickering. then i would take that group over a group who can't get close to getting the job done but don't bicker.
But battle efficiency is about how you fight, alone and in a group.

But what happens when that bickering leads to infighting, which we saw in several eps in SEED, therefore leaving themselves vulnerable to be shot and killed. And I have yet to see any of that in the current 3.



edit- oh yeah. on experience. let us assume that yzak athrun and dearkka have rusted a bit. or youc an even assume that they are what they were at the end of the war. then it wouldn't be a variable.
Because of Asran's inactivity, he is prolly rusty, but not so much Yzak and Deakka i dont think. Those two have been busy training new pilots and Yzak is busy running his own squad (my boys are all growed up), so i dont think they are as rusty as asran.

[Vectorspace]

I just heard the Gundam SEED Destiny episode 13 doesn't air until the 8th of January. So, no fansub today :(

[Mith252000]

Yup, no fansubs today as the episode 13 is played on Jan 8. Anyway, wait patiently people.

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

(fairly inexperienced pilots)


there is my evidence. you said so yourself. inexperience. that's what a pilot comes down to. inexperience vs experience.

The other three had more "experience" if you would like to put it that way
therefore they > new ones. another thing. you go watch the previuos gundam seed episodes. no bullet/sword slash touched the enemy etc etc. utnil the time they got destroyed.

you can also argue that athrun's zaku was upgraded. it slashed through a gundam's leg. that's incredible..usually when you slash through a gundam it still wouldn't budge.

(if you didn't notice earlier. i'm debating about pilots not ms's. sure it's a factor but i think you're trying to debate about ms's.)


i didn't bother reading the rest. no time :p sorry buds... this is a good debate though.

edit- ok i read some of the rest.




On a side note, i recall in SEED where Duel(Gen 1 Gundam) faced off agains Forbidden and Raider(separately) (Gen2) in which Duel won the duels(I make funny!!!) Victory to the experienced again.

they were weakened. variable can't be compared.



ON another side note, Yzak and Deakka have had lots o experience slicing off certain parts of other MS cause they have had their gundams sliced up (Yzak in particular, due to getting sliced up almost regularly by Kira in Strike/Freedom)


doesn't make sense. you're arguing that if i cut off your arms that you're better at chopping off arms?




IN any case, we can see where a superior numbers vs better tech battle can go depending on where the experience is.


I think teamwork is very important. Without teamwork, you run into people, get into their line of fire, screw up their aim, and generally piss the other ppl off. And in 1 instance, Calamity, Forbidden and Raider started fighting EACH OTHER while fighting Freedom/Justice. It would have been easy then for Kira/Asran to take out any one of the three, if only they didnt start freaking out cause of no more "juice" and run home. And the current 3 didnt fight each other, not like the original 3.


teamwork has nothing to do with this debate. you're talking about real life and if we have teamwork etc etc. then we're better. great? they didn't have teamwork and they almost got the job done. the other's had teamwork (not so much i believe. they don't work well with each other.. auel used a block word, they were bickering etc. etc. they were better but not much)

still teamwork is not a factor. tell me why it's a factor when the outcome of it can't be altered.. you can't say that if we gave team work to calamity and raider and forbidden they will be better.. we don't know that. it's an outcome not calculatable because they never had friendship and they never will. stop arguing about teamwork because it's a bunch of bullshit.




I hope u mean they fought against GINNS, cause they never fought against Zakus. And in even that case, Ginns dont have the weapons to cut through Phase Shift Armor(ep 1 of SEED) or the pilots know what the weaknesses are. And I do recall the 3 losing limbs and/or having damaged equipment (I recall Freedom(?) pushing back the beam from Calamity's Scylla chest gun back to it, and messing up that gun in the process). And of course losing to Duel and Justice in the end eps.


and if i recall correctly, it was duel buster freedom and justice and even the archangel. making it 4 1/2 vs. 3.




In ep2 they almost did. When Chaos, Gaia, and Abyss started ganging up on Impulse, Impulse got knocked down by Gaia. The finishing blow would have come from Abyss but Asran in Zaku shoulder charged Abyss, followed by a tomahawk throw to Gaia.


great. they still got asses whooped by athrun yzak and dearkka . the other three didn't.





But battle efficiency is about how you fight, alone and in a group.

great. the orignal had more battle effciency. they whooped butt (or was close to)


But what happens when that bickering leads to infighting, which we saw in several eps in SEED, therefore leaving themselves vulnerable to be shot and killed. And I have yet to see any of that in the current 3.

Again, a variable that can't be changed. you can go ask producers and the director what would've happened when the original three worked togehter better then they would just laugh and said that they didn't . that's how it went.



Because of Asran's inactivity, he is prolly rusty, but not so much Yzak and Deakka i dont think. Those two have been busy training new pilots and Yzak is busy running his own squad (my boys are all growed up), so i dont think they are as rusty as asran.
doesn't matter. i offered the fact that they could be at their pinnacle. it's how I weighed it.

someone come in and argue with/against me. and bring some god damn evidence. this is really starting to piss me off. i gave him his own words as proof and he wont take them -_-.


AGAIN THIS IS AN ARGUEMENT OF FACTS. NOT ONE OF OPINION. I'M GIVING YOU FACTS AND GIVING YOU RESULTS OFF FACTS. I AM NOT MAKING ANY OF THIS UP

have fun.

[Mith252000]

:sigh: I just don't know what to say. I will say this once. THIS IS ONLY AN ANIME!!!!!!!!!!!

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

:sigh: I just don't know what to say. I will say this once. THIS IS ONLY AN ANIME!!!!!!!!!!!

eh what can I say. i'm a Frickin debator. i love to debate. I even debate at school (although it's more legit)

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Well look at that, guess im not the only one who loves to debate. It's fun!

[Mith252000]

Look, I love to debate too but sometimes, I find debating over the anime quite irratating.

[Force]

whoa!! theres a certain point to where u can take debating.... and this just went past that point!! lol. yeash i know anime is cool and all but to debate this mucha nd know as much facts is reallllly confusing. i half the time dont know whos on whos side (in gundam) i cant even remember that many gundam's names,lol. yeah well thats just me -_-

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

Look, I love to debate too but sometimes, I find debating over the anime quite irratating.

better then debating about cheese. anyway can this go back to being a gundam seed destiny thread. lol :p

i think ill start.

i don't think i posted about this before

but

www.ashi.anime-epoch.com is a very good site to get gundam seed and destiny info.

[Mith252000]

Yes, please, no comparing of the MSs stats, okay? Stick to the topic.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Yes Master. So.....who's ready for some Freedom vs Impulse action in the near future? Cant wait til the 8th just to see Freedom in action again

[Mith252000]

Well, if you are really impatient, go watch SEED again.

[Mith252000]

Hmm, it seems that Athrun would only get back to Earth in ep 15. Talk about a long time.

[Aegis]

one detail: in ep6 it's asuran supporting yzak, if you got as much time as i do, well i slo-mo the thing and found in that scene the zaku did not carry the giant rifle dearkka did, and in a later scene where they pulled out, dearkka had his rifle
about the control drug: kluze probably had the same drugs. well if you're updated with current science stuff, in real life clones only live to around 12 weeks, and drugs only prolong it a bit. in the anime it's probably some incomplete method of gene therapy or whatever
and yes mith thank you. this is only an anime, stop copying and pasting other people's views and "debate about it". if you wanna debate, start one, this thread is called "episodes of------" don't go takin others' opinions and start arguing about it so others think like you, you know who does that? women, that's right. i didn't say anything before because most things in here are OPINIONATED, if you wanna make yourself look stupid and correcting my view on after watching the same anime you just did, go on ahead.

[Aegis]

anyone know how to get the arrangements from some of the music?
by the way, i'm a violinist, anyone else here a musician?

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

anyone know how to get the arrangements from some of the music?
by the way, i'm a violinist, anyone else here a musician?


i have to complete seed destiny ost. nipponsei released it.

[Aegis]

thanks, but i'm talking about like.. actual music scores. you know like the sheets that tells musicians the notes and stuff?
i actually googled a few, but i'm still lookin for like a... online shoppin spot where they got everything. don't really mind paying for good music

and uh... anyone got a basic idea what happened in the second half of 13?

[Mith252000]

Well, ep 13 was quite interesting. It seems that Gilbert is a DNA specialist. So, he chose Shin over Rey to pilot Impulse as if he knew about the SEED factor.

[Aegis]

who's gilbert...
anyways, i smell jealousy. but rey is still the best lookin male anime character ever
you know what would be nice. instead of having the raw and the subbed clips as separate, they should just release raws, then the sub groups can uh... make sub files that would just integrate subs into the raw file. you know what i mean? cuz downloading both the raw and the sub sucks.
isn't there a new opening/ending on ep 14? can't wait

[Mith252000]

FYI, Gilbert is the chairman of ZAFT. Anyway, here is the fansubs done by SEED fansubs.

http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/[SEED-Fansubs]%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2013.avi.torrent

[Crazy_Ewok83]

In Gundam SEED, Cagalli went into SEED mode in ep 49. But in ep 13 of Destiny, Yuna says to Cagalli that "We're both naturals." My question is this: Is the SEED factor a coordinator thing (which would make Cagalli a coordinator and that she lied to Yuna about being a natural) or is it something that anyone can attain(which means that Cagalli can be a natural and still have the SEED factor)? 'Cause with the (possible) exception of Cagalli, the only ones ive seen with the SEED factor are coordinators

[Vectorspace]

I can see only 2 possibilities in that respect:
--1. Either Cagalli is acutally a coordinator - she might not even know if she is
--2. Or it's possible (but extremely unlikely) for some or all of the genetic enhancements that make a coordinator to occur naturally in naturals. I hope it's this - that would make coordinators and naturals very much the same.
In SEED, we saw many times that Cagalli was a far more talented pilot than most naturals - remember the Sky Grasper simulator?

As for ep 13... COOL!!! To see Kira & Freedom back in action and kicking ass again! Unlike Athrun, Kira doesn't seem to have gotten rusty... :)
Now, why would ZAFT want to kill Lacus? Maybe they are from the rebel group that crashed Junuis 7, or a PLANT government faction who want the war to continue? Or, maybe the PLANT government are afraid that with Lacus living in Orb and with Orb joining the Earth Alliance, that they will capture her and use her as a propaganda tool - but if that was the case, PLANT would just want to bring her back, not kill her.

And the preview for ep 14... THE ARCHANGEL LAUNCHES! And it looks like it has more original crew than just Ramius and Kira - there was a face I recognised that I think might belong to a member of the Archangel's original crew. For some reason though, they are all wearing Orb uniforms - even Lacus is wearing a uniform and manning a station (Milliaria's station, I think).
It looks like Cagalli's wedding is in ep 14 too - in one clip Yuna is touching her head and suddenly Cagalli shrugs him off - maybe she doesn't go through with it?
In addition, I've heard that Destiny willl have new opening and closing themes from ep 14.

NEXT MONDAY CAN'T COME QUICKLY ENOUGH!

[Mith252000]

Like I say, be patient. Hmm, hope to see something more on Shin.

[Aegis]

i agree with vector there, in my opinion, it seems like sunrise just got tired of awesome animations and tactics, like mobieus vs. jinns. it feels like they pretty much got out of their seats and said "that's it, let's put a natural OS into mobile suits so they can all pilot, and we don't have to worry about how naturals lose to coordinators and the story can't go on. but couldn't they just have installed it before?? heck with it, GO NEW OS!" seriously, what's different with coordinators and naturals now? ramius dodging bullets? com'on, those are supposed to be zaft special forces? gimme a break! (don't get me wrong, i love ramieus) in the astray manga they mentioned how coordinators can communicate in their head... kinda like newtypes... where's that in here?
here's another important thing, phase shift? that's the most stupid thing ever. i mean yeah it was kinda hype when it first came out and klueze's bullets were all deflected by strike's PS armor... then afterwards having phase shift is pretty much like not having it at all. they still blow up after a shot or 2 in the cokpit. the only times PS armor demonstrate power was when freedom gets shot like 135498 times by providence. and justice should've been shot a few times also, not enough PS demonstration, justice was pretty much another freedom with less guns and a backpack. that's why forbidden's so awesome and calamity and raider were so garbage, nothing original there. thank God they brought it back when impulse's leg got ripped off after the PS was down. and nice demonstration on how the coresplendor system's valuable and not just stereotypically power ranger.
the thing with the lacus assassination..... i think it ties back to when somenoe (mith?) said that gilbert was evil. i think he wants mia to have all the power, therefore lacus must die but show no sign of death (if you think other wise, say you you think other wise, don't tell me i'm wrong)
yuna is gay, if you own a yuna fan site, you deserve to be shot, i think no objection there

[SuperBread]

OHHHH! i think that was the best episode so far(in my opinion.) well i guess that is because i'm such a big lacus and kira fan. haha. they actually showed a scene where it showed romantic interest in each other in destiny. =O

However that scene was kinda funny while i was watching it because it took them awhile just to open up freedom and for some reason lacus kept on saying, "kira...."


Is Lacus at a lost of words to what Kira said to her? : O

I would put a screen cap but I don't know how. Sorry. Anybody here know?

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Yes, conspiracy theories!!! ANd good point about the core splendor. And here i thought it was just going to be a new and inefficient way to get mobile suits out into combat. But it proved its purpose.

And yes, Lacus is just prolly at a loss for words. Go fig.

[Aegis]

i think lacus doesn't want kira in that thing, since kira said "it hurts me more to not be able to protect you" i think lacus think it hurts kira to rock freedom's cokpit once agaIN? seed-fansub right people?
the core splendor's actually been around for a long time, dates back all the way to gundam zz when they actually had used it alone on the battlefield, v gundam actually throws its legs at enemies and cause explosions. (well these are all from super robot wars haha, good game) and i haven't watched those old gundams, but in the game, the splendor ejects if the body takes too much damage or gets wacked. yeah i've been shaking my fist at this anime like "damn it show splendor's power!!" quick question, is the battery in the splendor?
and for you gundam veterans, wanna brief us about what happened to amuro and camille? i saw a bit of zz, camille was in some kind of coma.

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

In Gundam SEED, Cagalli went into SEED mode in ep 49. But in ep 13 of Destiny, Yuna says to Cagalli that "We're both naturals." My question is this: Is the SEED factor a coordinator thing (which would make Cagalli a coordinator and that she lied to Yuna about being a natural)

yuna still thinks that cagalli is a natural because her father was a natural. what he doesn't know is the fact that she was "adopted" she is a coordinator.



isn't there a new opening/ending on ep 14? can't wait

yes. it's a very good song. i just forgot what the title was for right now. serach gunota.

edit- i have the 2nd op downloaded. for those who watn it they can aim me or pm me.

the title

HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR-Pride.

[Vectorspace]

Aegis - about the Natural OS for mobile suits - That didn't exist at first. Kira only invented that during the Archangel's first visit to Orb, and at some point between then and ZAFT's assault on Panama the Earth Alliance developed them too. Then you have to allow for time to mass-produce mobile suits before you start seeing large-scape deployment of Natural OS-equipped suits.

Aegis - about the Phase Shift...
I'm pretty sure that Phase Shift is only really effective against physical damage - not so much against energy weapons. At the beginning of Gundam SEED, all the ZAFT suits used physical weapons - missiles, bullets, swords - making Phase Shift a valuable technology. They only gained energy weapons after reverce-engineering the technology from the captured Gundams, and then the Earth Alliance developed Transphase armour - which refracts beam cannon fire away from the suit as well as protecting against physical damage. You say that later in Gundam SEED phase shift equipped mobile suits explode after 1 or 2 hits - this isn't true. Only the Gundams have Phase Shift, and none of them are taken down so easily, and all by energy weapons:
*Freedom doesn't get hit that many times by Providence - most of the time Freedom dodges Providence's fire. Even when it does get hit, they're mostly non-vital areas (head, limbs, etc.) - although it did take a hit to the side of the chest at the end - Kira must have just been lucky.
*Buster and Duel get trashed by energy weapons and after an extended battle when they would have been low on power anyway.
*Aegis and Strike cripple each other with beam sabres
*Calamity and Forbidden are destroyed by beam sabres.
*Raider gets hit with Buster's big beam cannon when it's almost out of power - and therefore when the Transphase armour is on the point of failure. And Buster's cannon is pretty hefty.
*Finally the rebuilt Strike gets trashed by Providence's dragoon gunbarrels and then gets destroyed by the Dominions Lowenghrin cannon - both energy weapons.
I think that covers every Phase Shift/Transphase equipped suit that gets destroyed in combat.

xFiNaL_KaRyUux - about Cagalli
We don't know whether or not she's a coordiantor. Since she's adopted she might be, but at one point in SEED her father comments on how Kira is a coordinator and Cagalli is a natural.

[Mith252000]

Well, from what I remember, at the same time Kira is made in an artificial womb, his biological mother is pregnant. So, very likely, Natural.

[Aegis]

vector, you got me wrong dawg, i'm not talking about how stuff doesn't make sense, i'm saying how all these stuff (which makes sense) seem forcefully stuck into the story by lazy writers. yeah sure the OS makes ALOT of sense, in the gundam universe. but why is it there? why put this piece in this theatre? i'm saying they just took away the point for having the 2 sides natural and coordinators, and i'm not saying how the OS don't make sense. thank God they brought back mobile armor, MORE CHARACTER CONTRAST!
and about phaseshift, again, i know the concept, energy coating protective shielD super strong deflecting blah blah blah whatever! we get it alright? i'm saying there isn't enough demonstrations. the only time you see a gundam survives alot of hits was when freedom and buster got wacked, other than that? it's all like calamity got destroyed by pretty much 1 hit, forbidden got destroyed by 1 hit, raider got destroyed by 1 shot ("oo we got lazy with animating scenes where they take hits... so we'll just tell the fans uh... they ran out of energy") so on and so forth. yeah phase shift very advance, big deal, show some demonstration. you guys remember back in gundam wing? (not the proudest of gundam series) they had gundamium alloy armor, throughout the whole series you see them take ALOT of hits, they get ganged up, and yet the armor shows effectiveness in each battle. ok now you got the PS, why put this piece in the story if they're only gonna demonstrate it like... 4 times?
ask questions when you read or watch something, notice details, think deep, use your head blah blah blah, all the stuff your teachers and your parents try to teach you. don't let it go just because it makes sense

[Aegis]

hey guys, found a mistake: ep 13 freedom shot off that mobile suit's missile pods, but when it fell, the pods were intact. check it out

quick question: do mobile suits' energy enforce their shields?

[Vectorspace]

If you mean the physical shields that they hold, then no.

[Mith252000]

Well, if its physical, no but if like the one used by Hyperion, yes.

[SuperBread]

out of curiousty, was bartfield rebuilt as a cyborg? This might kind of be a spoiler so don't read on if u didn't watch ep.13





At one part of episode 13 when the house was under siege and this one guy stabbed bartfield's arm with a knife he pulled his arm off and shot him! =O Didn't he get killed as well as his wife when Kira blasted them back in Seed? I don't think they ever explained how he came back though.... Think they are going to in Destiny?

[Aegis]

no he's not a cyborg, when his mobile dog blew up... uh... probably his girl friend protected him a bit. and they didn't explain how he survived, but when he reappeared, he lost an arm.

but regarding shields, they must be pretty tough armor if they don't take energy to uh... harden. cuz man them shields got like their own heatsink and everything, they can take ALOT of hits, and they tend to blow up right away when they're detached from the MS and getting hit

[Mith252000]

Well, the shields are coated with anti-beam coating.

[Vectorspace]

Bartfield survived the destruction of his mobile dog, he just lost an eye and his left arm. In SEED, he reappears as the commander of the battleship Eternal with Lacus Clyne. He had no left arm, he walked with a cane, and a massive scar on his face covered up an eye. Obviously in Destiny, he has a prosthetic arm with a gun inside.

Shields don't use Phase Shift, but they are extremely strong for their thickness. Much stronger than they should be relative to Mobile Suit armour. If anti-beam coatings exist, why don't they coat mobile suits in it?

[xFiNaL_KaRyUux]

it might have to do with surface area. i dont tihnk that the developers thought this deep into mech development. the thing is i think that phase shift can still take certain amounts of beam damage, they just can't take beam saber damage whereas beam sabers havea more concentrated energy flow. also you have to consider the fact that the energy from beam rifles decrease the farther they go. it's the same thing with bullet velocity.

[Mith252000]

Hmm, could be that they tried doing it on the MS with the PS but it was not a successful creation so they made a shield to protect the MS from beam attacks.

[Aegis]

haha yeah this is ironic with gundamx, anyone saw that? it's so wack that the gundams can take like 10000 hits but their shields blow up in like 3

[Vectorspace]

The shields probably don't explode - with no Mobile Suit holding them a hard weapon hit would probably send the shield flying away really really fast.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

shields blowing up? Man the only shield i remember being blown up was in the original MSG, with the GYAN's missile/shield (i think). And yes, Gundam X was kinda ridiculous

[Vectorspace]

Shouldn't be too long until subbed #14 is out...

Whoever finds it first, post a link!

[Mith252000]

Hmm, the new OP is quite interesting. Hope to watch the whole episode soon.

[Mith252000]

Hmm here is a sub done by a relatively unknown Anime Chounin. Here is the link.

http://a.scarywater.net/ach/%5BAnimeChounin%5DGundam_SEED_Destiny_-_14%5BAEF97E04%5D.avi.torrent

[SuperBread]

Wow, the new opening and ending is pretty cool. It was pretty funny at one part where Freedom took Cagalli away and Yuuna was like all freaking out and saying, "fire you fool! Fire!" His face was amusing and scary at the same time.

Out of curiousty, what ever did happen to Kira's adoptive father? They show his mother but not the dad. Did they ever explain in Seed? Can't quite remember....

I'm assuming that Sai and Millia(however u spell it. ppl spell it differently) aren't going to be in Destiny huh? They only showed Millia for like a sec where she took a picture of the damage and that was pretty much it. Sai, well nothing. As for that guy who had black hair back in seed(uhhh waht was his name again? he was kira's friend)I doubt we'll see him ever since he left Archangel back in Seed.

Is it just me or do a lot of ppl tend to yell at Cagalli....

I wonder what Archangel shall do next for their next mission! :)

P.S. there is some weird looking new guy in the ending and opening. I know for sure he will be in ZAFT. I wonder what his role will be in Destiny....

[Vectorspace]

I watched it, but I think Anime Chounin didn't do a very good job of subbing it. There are so many grammatical errors that I think it must have been done by a Japanese person who isn't quite fluent in English. I'm still going to download SEED-Fansubs version when they finish it.

We never see what happens to Kira's dad - he's seen breifly in SEED when Kira passes through Orb, but that's it.

Milliaria has been in Destiny - She was the photographer in the opening theme of eps 1-13, and in an episode after the fall of Junuis 7 she was taking pictures of all these dead sea creatures washed up on a beach. Since she featured prominently in the opening, I think she will be in it more at some point.

When Freedom landed, Yuuna hid behind Cagalli!! It was so funny to finally see that he's such a coward! And I was pleasantly surprised that the Orb fleet just let the Archangel go. Orb's government may have opted to join the Earth Alliance, but it looks like Orb's military (and presumeably its populus) don't approve of that decision... :)

The next few episodes look to be interesting... Bartfield has a Gundam! I can't wait to see what it looks like properly. Cagalli gets her Strike Rouge back, with a new Gatling Gun shield and a new Striker Pack.

In one part of the opener, a suit that I thought was freedom appears in shadow, so you can barely see it. It flies past the camera to another suit that (slightly) resembles Provedence - a suit all in grey with a big backpack, that's either enormous or greatly exaggerated in size. But then, you see Freedom as well as the suit in shadow. I can see 2 anti-ship swords on its back and a boomerang on its right shoulder, but it definitely has a backpack similar to Freedom's. The chest is blue, and the torso structure doesn't match any Gundam in SEED/SEED Destiny that I remember. Then Kira's image superimposes on Freedom, and Shin's on the suit in shadow. Could we be seeing a teaser of Shin's new suit?

[Edit] I think this might be Bartfield's suit: http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-destiny/murasame.htm
It's listed just under the name 'Murasame' and as a mass-production suit, and when you beifly see it parked in the Archangel's hangar (in Mobile Armour mode) it has colour - suggesting it does not have Phase Shift and so is not a Gundam.

[Vectorspace]

SEED-Fansubs have released their version of Gundam SEED Destiny episode 14. Get the torrent here: http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2014.avi.torrent

[AzN_GaNjA]

that murasame i think were those things that kira slashed the wings off with the beam saber when he was with cagalli goin back to archangel....

[Aegis]

murasames are new models for orb, it's parked in archangel probably because... they needed suits? you can find them in the official seed-desinty site under mechanics for orb
gundams do not necessarily have phaseshift, astrays don't have PS
and the guy who's in zaft... is probably the dude in that shiny zaku back when they were defending against earth's nuke attack

i have yet to see impulse use its little knives

alright i just saw new opening, and i think we can all safely assume that neo is another fllaga clone

[Vectorspace]

You're right - the aircraft that Kira slashed the wings off were Murasame's, as is Bartfield's suit.

And Astrays are not gundams.

[Mith252000]

Well, that depends on how you look at it. Murasame are MSs made similar to the design of Freedom with some other modifications. Hmm, I would say ti isn't a Gundam as it does not have the immunity factor like the main Gundams but I may be wrong....

[Vectorspace]

Gundams are the suits that have the acronym G.U.N.D.A.M appear when their OS's boot up. We see this for every Gundam in SEED and SEED-Destiny excapt Calamity, Raider, and Forbidden - we never see their OS start-up screens. But I assume their Gundams. Assuming they are, then Gundams are always the Phase Shift (Or Transphase) armour-equipped mobile suits.

I tend to agree with what this site says: http://www.mahq.net/
That site has lots of info on Mecha Anime's, including the Gundam series up to and including SEED and SEED-Destiny.

[Mith252000]

Hmm,yup that site has quite a lot of info. However they tend to flair up a little if you don't agree with them on something in the series or tell them that they had made a mistake.

[Aegis]

well it really depends on what you think a gundam is, i'm gonna go with the most basic idea, a gundam is a TYPE of mobile suit, the main gundams you speak of are like souped-up versions of these suits, but gundam is a base frame. what separates a gundam from other types of suits is it's frame and it's concept build. like the good zakus rai and lunamaria pilot, they got armor and shields and gunpower, now what if they made another zaku like those two except it doesn't have as much accessories because of economical reasons... are you gonna say "that's not a zaku because it don't got gears"? good thing to think about. if a gundam is determined by their (shitty) phaseshift/transphase armor... why don't they just call it "phaseshift MS"? gundam's been around for years, the previous generations didn't even have the same armor or abilities, should they be stripped of their gundam title? remember when kira walked into freedom's room the first time and went like "GUNDAM??" it be funny of lacus bust in his face "no it's not a gundam, because it doesn't have phaseshift" and the point about the letters GUNDAM showing up in their start-up OS screen... well you proved your own point, it's an OS startup screen, if they used a WINDOWS OS to run these suits... what shall we call them?
"WINDOW??" "this is zgmf-10A freedom, tee hee hee, but i guess WINDOW sounds stronger doesn't it?"
naw dude i'm just messing with you, suits being gundams or not really doesn't affect the story, so i don't care

well, that's my interpretation anyways, here's another reference if anyone noticed. they got goldcoated suits now, it's so awesome they're bringing it back, remember in the old gundam? hyakus? i also think they're bringing back the wing burst thing from V2 gundam, in the intro with that new suit shinn probably gets.

and speaking of "getting" new gundams/MS, what happened to the good old "upgrade" storyline? being handed a completely new model feels like... they just stuck that in the story... it goes the same with upgrading... guess these factors don't really help huh haha. but still, more upgrading is better, i hate seeing good retro suits getting dumped

[Force]

hmm... well i saw 13 and 14 and the freedom is frikin awesome!!!(i havnt seen seed btw) lol

[Mith252000]

Well, that is not surprising. Freedom is supposed to be the invincible. So, no surprises there.

[SuperBread]

For those of you who have seen the preview after ep.15, do any of you understand this? Weird....

[Crazy_Ewok83]

My view of Gundams is that they are kinda like the prototype ms from which future ms will be based upon. for example, the Strike Gundam is the prototype of the mass produced Strike Dagger. Even in the original MSG, the RX-78 Gundam is the prototype for the mass produced RGM-79 GM ms. And going to Gundam Wing (yes, i understand that Wing is weaksauce), the Tallgeese is the prototype for the Leos. Also the Mercurius and Vayeate are the prototypes for the Virgos. And the trend is that the Gundam "prototypes" are the most badass ms in existence, but they are expensive so they are small in numbers. So they are, in essence, "dumbed down" so they can produce lots of cheap, not so badass ms.

SO WHAT THE HELL IS GUNDAM SEED DESTINY EDITED?! NEED ENLIGHTENMENT!!!!

GO WINDOWS MS!!!!!!

[Vectorspace]

Ep 15:
http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/%5BSEED-Fansubs%5D%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2015.avi.torrent

[Vectorspace]

Crazy_Ewok83: It looks like Gundam SEED Destiny Edited might be a clip show.

It happens sometimes in Gundam series - they show an episode that just serves to summarise the previous ones.

[Aegis]

it happens in almost ALL series, they spend an entire episode (lazy bastards) to recap what happened in the series so far. in naruto it happens in the form of flashbacks... wait my bad, that's a horrible comparison, naruto's so horrible at it they do the "edited" like in every episode, freaking lazy bastards. but back to gundams, yeah they do it in a form of a narrative, usually a character is like narrating what happened so far. back in seed first, an edited episode was done by erica simmons, she was entering like a data journal crap, and explaining somethings. A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND EPISODE. but it forces you to watch anyways because they guarentee to drop in important details (i should use singular form here) that you can only find out in this one episode, making it an essential episode.

WHY? many reasons, to meet the episode quota, for seed destiny i think it's 50 from some source. and to fill in the empty spots of time when the DVD comes out. get it? they can't have DVDs that go like 5hours (i don't know, don't ask me) and then the last one is like 1 episode, they need to fill it up.

back to the main point - complete waste of time. i say only 1 of us watch it *stares at mith* and he gives us that "important detail(s)" when he's done.
take one for the team bro

[Aegis]

i gotta correct myself in the previous statement about neo being fllaga clone... i meant to say rei, but neo too i guess. in the intro ramius seemed pretty emotional with rei.

shinn acts like he's 13 sometimes... most of the time... all the time.
back to the first episode, is it just me or he "helped" stella from falling... with his hands on her jugs? anyone else helped a girl like that before? and still "helping" her 5 seconds later.
and uh... other hands seem to be attracted to her chest too. like that MA pilot on J.P.
are those 3 pilots really strong pilots who don't use their heads, or are they retards that are really strong. cuz if you really pay attention to their conversations, there isn't much depth in em.

"Oh, I'm Lunamaria. Lunamaria Hawke. I'm the pilot of the APPLE Warrior."

[Mith252000]

Hey, do you have to be so obvious. I hate such episodes but for the sake of you guys, maybe.....

[wufeimaxwell]

Eh.I've watched raw ep 9 anyone got links for subbed rest of eppies ?

[Mith252000]

Well, just go to this site.

http://seed.eatshoe.com

[Aegis]

hm.... if PS coating involves the surface of armor, i wonder if you go up to a gundam and grope it you would get shock or melted away

[Mith252000]

That is if the Gundam is activated. If it is inactive, nothing would happen to yolu even if you touch it.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

I dont think ps works that way. I think PS is like a specially engineered metal that is molecularly reinforced when run through an electric current. Best analogy, when water freezes and changes from a bipolar molecule to an octagonal molecule. Its a physics thing.

[Vectorspace]

I don't think Rei is a La Flaga clone - if anything he's more connected to Kuruuse than Flaga.

And in the opening, Ramius is with Neo, not Rei.

[Aegis]

em... kuruuse is a fllaga clone himself. but i see what you're saying, kuruuse could've had a kid with someone else and then there's rei... then uh... who the hell is neo in here then. fllaga's been a busy man, out spreading his SEEDS and all. get it? haha, forget you then

[wufeimaxwell]

No such file or directory

[Vectorspace]

Aegis: Kuruuse was a clone of Flaga's father, not Flaga himself.

Rei is definitely connected somehow to Kuruuse.

Now, the ultimate question: Is Neo a clone of Flaga, or Flaga himself??
We never saw his charred corpse, just his helmet floating in space...

[Force]

well im totally confused but eps 15 was gd :)

[Aegis]

uh..... just so we know you're justifying the right thing, fllaga is a last name buddy, the dude you're talking about his first name is mwu, they refer to him as major fllaga. by the way, is it just me or the mwu-still-alive theory a bit... retarded? anyone who has a basic knowledge about space science would know that you can't survive in space exposed. helmet off? where's he gonna swim to in zero gravity at temperatures way below 0? and uh just so this is clear, when a human is exposed in space without any means of... well not exposing, the person would explode inside out, or implode as they say because of the huge difference in pressure inside and out. similar to how people explode to cyclops and genesis (which i can't explain).

oh and vector? thanks for correcting me once again, i see you like your new found habit, let me keep posting stuff for you to correct

[Mith252000]

Hmm, it seems that Edited is not considered part of the series. It is just a clp show. Well, basically a sumarry of the previous episode with their best scenes.

[Vectorspace]

Aegis: I hope I'm not annoying you with my corrections...

That's what I meant about Flaga: Kruuse is a clone of Major Mwu Flaga's father.

I agree, it's extremely unlikely that Flaga survived the destruction of his MS. But it is possible. You don't implode in space - explosive decompression will cause you to explode - the pressure in your body is much greater than outside, and because the change is instant you pop like a baloon. You implode under extreme pressure, like at the bottom of the ocean.

But you only explode if the pressure drops to zero extremely fast. If it doesn't, you can survive in a vacuum for a short time - VERY short. Your blood will boil and capilliary vesseles throughout you body will burst because of it, but you can survive it - for a short time.

If he lost just his helmet, his face would have been the part exposed to the lowest pressure, so would have taken the most damage. That would explain the mask Neo wears, if Neo is Flaga...

So, he could have survived. If he was rescued very quickly - also unlikely. The question is, would the writers do such a thing?

[Aegis]

yes writers would do such a thing, for bizarre reasons. implode explode whatever, bottom line is, there's no freakin way he could've survived. archangel headed off course to fend off dominion, so they were basically pretty isolated. strike got blown away in front of archangel. i would believe it only if they say something along these lines: strike blown up but the force was so great it launched mwu's halfdead body through space pressure and temperature (i'm not even gonna argue with science here) with his face exposed and somehow God was aiming him towards a ship (possibly earth) which had its hatch opened at the moment and there were 15 guys there and they couldn't react because of the body's launched speed and they stopped the body and they all died except mwu and mwu's eyes popped out because of the pressure, also, they happened to be closing the hatch at the moment. but they would have to have a clip showing this miraculous event, and losing a viewer (me) in the process because that is just BS. similar to what the greeks call deux ex maki na (i think that's the spelling). it means the ending sucks so much because they put so much tension in the beginning and they don't know how to end it, the writer just send God in to fix the whole thing.

but either way, they could pull a metal gear on us. if you played metal gear and you know very well about what happened in the story, specifically the clones and what not, you'd know what i'm talking about. apparently in japan it's okay for writers to bite off of americans, they think it's somehow an honor...

who knows, since MGS3 is basically a 007 story made in japan... wait my bad MGS IS japanese made

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Umm, i think its called "Deus Ex Machina"

And yes the writers WOULD do such a thing, cause you can only do so much before u lose possible material for episodes. I mean, there are like 200+ eps in all the gundam universe, inspiration's gotta run out eventually

[Mith252000]

Well, can't blame them. Anyway, about the EDITED, so far, no one fansub group has doe it yet. Hmm, heard they are adding more details to the episode but I don't know what they are.

[Vectorspace]

Episode 16 didn't air - we have to wait an extra week.

[Crazy_Ewok83]

Episode 16 isnt for at least another week, o and here is the link for Gundam SEED Destiny EDITED from animesuki

http://www.point-blank.cc:7000/torrents/%5BA-Kingdom_-_AonE%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_-_-EDITED-_%5B799E9A8E%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=a692a72078a6 b58d5775ff5bc944922daa22ba53

At least, I think this is the right link...

[Mith252000]

Well, it seems that episode 16, the focus is on Shin. That great news, for me.

[Vectorspace]

Hopefully we'll see some decent Saviour Gundam action too... Finally!

Orb isn't very far from Carpentaria... so with any luck the Minerva and the Archangel should meet soon.

By the by... I'm not certain, but I think Gundam Seed Destiny Edited is episode 16 - since it was in the next episode preview at the end of episode 15. Your thoughts?

[Mith252000]

Well, a lot of anime magazines in Japan including Newtype has considered this week's episode as episode 16. I think this week is episode 16. Just because EDITED had a preview does not mean it is part of the series.

[Aegis]

by "didn't air" do you mean 17 will take an extra week? or were you referring to 16?

well while this is going down, naruto fans can rejoice for the new manga

[Vectorspace]

Gundam Seed Destiny Edited (a clip show recounting the last 15 episodes) aired last saturday instead of a normal episode. Whether or not it counts as an actual episode is debatable.

[Mith252000]

Hmm, episode 16 is really nice. Shin was slapped by Athrun for disobeying orders by pursuing Gaia and attacking the EA base and freeing all the forced labourers. Interesting episode.

[Force]

where/when did u see 16
??? :S

[AzN_GaNjA]

its probably a RAW, the subbed probably comes out on monday or tuesday. im downloading the RAW right now...

[Aegis]

you know what, for coherence purposes, let's just assume the edited is 16 and call it 16-edited and then there's 17. they had edited episodes back in seed anyways

[Force]

so is the edited version 16? im dlin edited now

[Mith252000]

Nope, this episode is episode 16. EDITED is the special episode.

[Aegis]

damn you special episode *shakes iron fist*

[Mith252000]

Well, here is the subs for episode 16.

http://seed.eatshoe.com/torrents/[SEED-Fansubs]%20Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2016.avi.torrent