Aries from FF7 Like or hate?

[Blade_Dane10]

I personaly really hated Aries. She was all around weak. Maybe she was kind of cute, but can you really count on that for a good game Charecter? I think not. She wasn't even a really deep Charecter. Give me a person like Cloud, Vincent, Squall or some one like that. They are the true game Charecters.

[baka]

aeris shes ok i think all character from ff7 is the best but personally i think tifa is the worst i dunno maybe barret too

[KazeDaBlackWind]

tifa is worse then aeris when it comes to usefulness...
aeris is FF7s main mage, so.. yea

[Kenji4200]

shes ok but Tifa is better

[Spaz]

let me just say that i hate vincent from ff7..... its assholes like him that kill the roles of barret and cid.... *The game is much better without vincent and yuffi* but im a deep guy and i like vincents story but if they went in depthed with all of the chars the game would have been a 5-7 disc game

but sony wasnt as developed at the time...

as for aeris..... same as the in depth stuff...
the game defenitly needed a revival....

[EaT mY dUsT!]

Aeris is definitly a good character in the game cause she was just there for half the game cause you find out that she was the 1 of the 2 last special people (for got what they were called) her a sephy were but then sephy killed her and dumbass cloud diddn't use a Phenoix down to revive her but put her in water and let her die. and at the end when all of that green "mana" energy comes up its because of AERIS!!!!!!!!! And dude what do you mean the game is better without yuffie or vincent? Tifa sucked and Cid was next in line Vincent kicked ass in the game. yuffie yeah... she sucked

[VashX]

not a really deep character? ur crazy. aeris played a major part in the plot.
aeris isnt actually that weak at all. she's mostly a magic type of person and usually in every rpg, the magic person's hp, attack, and defense is low.

[Last Exile Gear]

I named her Dead Bitch in my game. I think that says it all right there.

[Pyr0tek]

Aeris was good. She was magic and if you used her for attacking then you're dumb. Her ultimate spell was cheap ass, and there's a way to get it, not sure if you need to cheat.

[Slipknot666]

I personaly really hated Aries. She was all around weak. Maybe she was kind of cute, but can you really count on that for a good game Charecter? I think not. She wasn't even a really deep Charecter. Give me a person like Cloud, Vincent, Squall or some one like that. They are the true game Charecters.
1. Aeris was very far from weak, she was actually one of the better characters in the game. You probably just tried to physical attack things to death, if so, stupid move on your part. She has the highest magic rating in the game. Give her some summons, some healing, and some high level black magic paired with an all materia and she'll decimate enemy parties.
2. Cloud and Squall are incredibly crappy characters, how you get "true game characters" out of them is beyond me. They're both crybaby little pússies.

I named her Dead Bitch in my game. I think that says it all right there.
ROFL that's horrible but true.

Overall I think Aeris was a great character, and her death was the most moving part of the game. Ironically, Sephiroth is still my favorite character despite the fact that Aeris' death saddened me. Dumbass Cloud should have used a phoenix down on her, that was back when the 0 life status was called "dead" as opposed to "KO'd" so technically a phoenix down would have worked. Stupid, stupid, stupid dumbass Cloud. Sephiroth shoulda killed his pansyass instead of Aeris.

[Shaolin-Emu]

1. Aeris was very far from weak, she was actually one of the better characters in the game. You probably just tried to physical attack things to death, if so, stupid move on your part. She has the highest magic rating in the game. Give her some summons, some healing, and some high level black magic paired with an all materia and she'll decimate enemy parties.

...that would actually require a little bit of time and effort....all of which would be wasted since she's just gonna die 5 minutes later

[Zylth]

A dumbass cloud diddn't use a Phenoix down to revive her but put her in water and let her die.
Read phoenix down next time, it revives KO not death, theres a diffrent of being knocked out and being stabbed in your heart
Aeris rocked, Ive always loved white mages, they can be so cheap ^^ i never have to level, jus have a good fast white mage with awsome skills and im set, but i mean its better then what happend to my friend, he leveled aeris tolvl 96 his 1st time playing and then she died, he got pissed off like a mofo...but thats beside the point, heres my rating
Cloud sucks
Aeris owns
Vincent Pwns
Tifa is god

[primal.instinct]

ok people, first, i'm gonna start by finally returning to give some input you should think about. whether or not you think it's important, i could care less. but listen to what i say and just put some thought.

1. Aeris was NOT a bad character in any kind of way imaginable. She was VITAL to the story/plot of Final Fantasy 7 and without her, many plot holes would come to exsistance. What they are, i will not say because they all contain spoilers.

2. Aeris IS NOT a melee character. WTF are you doing putting her up in the front lines with such bad HP/STR/VIT/DEF stats? Just because she isn't your style of playing, does NOT mean in any way she was bad.

3. Aeris was a pretty deep character. I've read the theories of the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris Love Triangle (yes, i'm a nerd if you want to call me that part, but i just needed some kind of plot hole filler, so think what you want of me.) Aeris was already involved with someone else, those who played the game should know, and she saw the same qualities with Cloud. Cloud didn't really know how he felt about Aeris, but he did have his feelings for Tifa, as seen in the Lifestream. Aeris was just everything he saw in Tifa and what he wanted. Aeris' death just made him not want to make the same mistakes with Tifa. In his final quote at the end, he said it just so he can say thanks to Aeris. The theory goes on, i forgot the site, but i'll look it up again and i'll post it.

4. Tifa is NOT completely useless story-wise. I myself didn't use her much for my main parties unless it was necessary. She was mainly the jack (jane if you are one of those politically correct anal people) of all trades, good at many, master of none. She had decent stats in ALL departments (and 2 rather strong other attributes if you don't mind me including.. hehe... ok shut-up). Her story was the reason why Cloud wanted to join SOLDIER and all that story that goes with it. Without her, there would be no rivalry with Sephiroth and there would be no many other things. Too many spoilers to actually say. She may not have been a great party-use character, BUT she was needed in the story.

5. To answer the thread question, I liked Aeris. She was a likeable character, even though she did try to take Cloud from Tifa (yes, i'm one of the Cloud-Tifa fans). I still like Tifa better, the story writer guys gave her a decent description in the manual. And she's kinda persistant too, sticking to her man to the end. Damn, i find that kind of quality in a woman pretty damn hot.

~ End of Discussion/Rant

[KrAzyLiLAzNGr1]

She isn't that bad. Shes good for her healing not for her attacks. You shouldn't waste too much time on her though, shes just going to die.

[Blade_Dane10]

Ok i'm gonna put in my 2 cents again. The reason cloud didn't use a phoenix down on her was because whe a prson "dies in battle they arn't really dead. There just in a suspended state. Like when a preson goes into a coma. They arn't dead, but arn't truely alive either. Aries was killed by "sephy" because he is the most powerful person in the game at that point. Also notice that she wasn't slashed, she was stabed. In every fight in every place if a person is hit they are cut, not stabed. The guns that the Shinra ***** guards used were rubber bullets because i can't think of a good reason right now. Barret used real bullets, so did Vincent (who is one of the, if not the, most bad ass people in the game). So Any more questions?
BTW: Yuffe did suck major ass.

[Marth278]

I named her Dead Bitch in my game. I think that says it all right there.
lol thats a name only a mother could love.

well, she died or not i wouldn't use her either way so i guess i didn't like her

[_TheNoLifeKing_]

AT first i hated her. Then is aw how vital she was to the story and she wasnt that bad. I still pick all the other charecters over her.

[Final Rush]

i never bothered using her since she dies later on. i mean, if u spend all that time up until she dies leveling her up and such, then it kinda messes up your party. you HAVE to bring in a replacement, right? whoever it is will be behind in levels, limit breaks, and so on.

and what's this about her being a good white mage? well, that may be true, but anyone can be just as good a healer as she is. i never had a problem healing without her.

lemme go off-topic for a second. i just want people to know that 7 was the ff i hated the most. i dont really know why, but i just didnt enjoy it much at all. i know most people think it was the best ff, rpg, or even the best GAME ever, but i have to disagree. i guess the story just didnt appeal to me...

[CapnCarl]

she sucked in battle and even if she was used she dies anyways. yes i hate her lol

[Spaz]

if that character cant go and beat the living crap out of the enemy with its fist or a weapn then i consider is useless...

[Slipknot666]

Read phoenix down next time, it revives KO not death, theres a diffrent of being knocked out and being stabbed in your heart
Aeris rocked, Ive always loved white mages, they can be so cheap ^^ i never have to level, jus have a good fast white mage with awsome skills and im set, but i mean its better then what happend to my friend, he leveled aeris tolvl 96 his 1st time playing and then she died, he got pissed off like a mofo...but thats beside the point, heres my rating
Cloud sucks
Aeris owns
Vincent Pwns
Tifa is god
Actually Phoenix Down, in FFVII, only said "revives a fallen party member" in its description and the 0 life status was called "dead" in FFVII, like I said in my earlier post, so therefore Cloud could technically revive Aeris with a Phoenix Down. I believe this is probably the reason why they made PDs say "removes KO status" in further FFs.

[RadicalDreamer]

Aeries was kind of annoying, I'm more of a Tifa fan, but nonetheless it was very sad when she died. I don't like Cloud. Squall on the other hand is a more interesting character.

[Last Exile Gear]

I don't like Cloud. Squall on the other hand is a more interesting character.


Damn right, It's good to see other people who actually have some sense of when a char is well developed or not. Though I have to admit, both are the Silent Protagonist archtype.

[Zero_Takahashi]

She better then Tifa...i dont like Tifa...shes too big...

[RadicalDreamer]

She better then Tifa...i dont like Tifa...shes too big...

big chested? You're actually holding it against a lady for having a large bosom? My god, man, have you lost all sense?!

[Zylth]

Actually Phoenix Down, in FFVII, only said "revives a fallen party member" in its description and the 0 life status was called "dead" in FFVII, like I said in my earlier post, so therefore Cloud could technically revive Aeris with a Phoenix Down. I believe this is probably the reason why they made PDs say "removes KO status" in further FFs.
Phoenix down never revived the dead, It says when they have 0 life left, which in standard means in the game not life %, so its not saying you have 0% life left your dead permenently, it means you have 0% health remaining to withstand the pain, once you reach that limit you are KO'ed, in every final fnatasy game you are KO'ed not killed, when you are killed items cannot bring you back, you are trying to say the game didnt clearly say that a person was dead or KO'ed so your using it for your advantage when you know that they are knocked out, its not a option on weither it does or not its common sence

[ManjiHimura]

cloud's final quote was that he could go c aeris again, never c a part where he said to thank her 0_0;
aeris was my fav character and i really thought that the death of tifa would had been much better ^_^

[RadicalDreamer]

What about in Sword of Mana where if your NPC dies they float around as a ghost until you revive them with an Angel's Grail (or go to an inn) but when characters die outside of battle the Angel's grail doesn't work? Explain that one away.

[scorpion]

aeris was one of the most useless characters in the game I was so happy to be rid of her at the end of disc one
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What about in Sword of Mana where if your NPC dies they float around as a ghost until you revive them with an Angel's Grail (or go to an inn) but when characters die outside of battle the Angel's grail doesn't work? Explain that one away.






Someone here isn't reading his or her instruction manual! When someone dies during battle, they don't really die. They "fall," "drop," are "knocked unconscious," and in some cases even "swoon." These are all translations for the Japanese RPG term sentou funou, which simply means "unable to battle." So your resurrect spells don't actually bring characters back from the dead—they're just the equivalent to slapping them in the face a few times.
Besides, every RPG world is under an imperial edict stating that you can resurrect humans only after battles. If you could bring people back to live whenever you wanted, we'd have a major overpopulation problem on our hands, no?

[primal.instinct]

cloud's final quote was that he could go c aeris again, never c a part where he said to thank her 0_0;
aeris was my fav character and i really thought that the death of tifa would had been much better ^_^



Come on man, did you even read all of my posts? I said that all of it was in a theory just so that the plot holes would be filled. Besides, it's a believeable theory anyway. If he was finally satisfied with staying with Tifa, he probably would say thanks to Aeris for showing him the light. but like i said, it's all theory. no one really knows.

[ManjiHimura]

guess i didn't read the whole thing my apologiez 00;

[Blade_Dane10]

Come on man, did you even read all of my posts?
I hate to say it (accually i would love to) but i think your just starved for attention there primal

[Zero_Takahashi]

big chested? You're actually holding it against a lady for having a large bosom? My god, man, have you lost all sense?!

hey...i dont like them that big...thats like more then a handful...just think about when she gets older...thought so...

[DLD369]

I don't mind her..but I found out to late I should have used someone different..since she dies -___- she's not my favorite though...

[AngelArm]

Best character in FF7? Aeris. She was the mage. which made her awesome.
Tifa sucks. She isn't good, and has no strong points. At all.
Yuffie was ok, Vincent was better.
And Aeris is the cutest ;) I still hate Sephiroth......

[RadicalDreamer]

hey...i dont like them that big...thats like more then a handful...just think about when she gets older...thought so...

You're not supposeed to think about when she's older. Old people are unnattractive anyway (usually). They may be more than a handful, like to really nice pillows... wait, maybe this topic is getting out of hand, hmm...

[ManjiHimura]

Best character in FF7? Aeris. She was the mage. which made her awesome.
Tifa sucks. She isn't good, and has no strong points. At all.
Yuffie was ok, Vincent was better.
And Aeris is the cutest ;) I still hate Sephiroth......



this person is so right!!! aeris is the best next to cloud in ff7 i totally hate seph for killing her, damn thing made me cry :lol:

[Slipknot666]

Phoenix down never revived the dead, It says when they have 0 life left, which in standard means in the game not life %, so its not saying you have 0% life left your dead permenently, it means you have 0% health remaining to withstand the pain, once you reach that limit you are KO'ed, in every final fnatasy game you are KO'ed not killed, when you are killed items cannot bring you back, you are trying to say the game didnt clearly say that a person was dead or KO'ed so your using it for your advantage when you know that they are knocked out, its not a option on weither it does or not its common sence
Why don't you read your FFVII instruction book? I'm looking at it right now and the EXACT NAME OF THE 0 LIFE STATUS IS "DEATH". Not K fúcking O, DEATH, OK ASSHOLE? I know my FFVII shit, now instead of arguing by assumption why don't you look it up next time before fúcking with me? And if you still don't believe me and think it's talking about the death skill I'll tell you what the instruction book says, EXACTLY what it says, and I'll caps the important words of the passage. Here goes.
Death: HP drops to zero and the character is unable to do anything. If all characters fall into this STATUS, the party is DESTROYED. Cure: Item "Phoenix Down", Magic "Revive" types. And it says STATUS, meaning it's talking about a status called death, not the instant death skill, so with that being said I have 2 words for you: YOU LOSE. I believe my work is done here.

[RadicalDreamer]

Besides, every RPG world is under an imperial edict stating that you can resurrect humans only after battles. If you could bring people back to live whenever you wanted, we'd have a major overpopulation problem on our hands, no?

And that's the answer. It doesn't really make sense. It's just so our characters die and get lost forever in battle (for obvious gameplay purposes), only if it's part of the story.

[Ramina-Riku]

Aeris i lvled the heck out of her and i beat the game without her... lol XD

[primal.instinct]

I hate to say it (accually i would love to) but i think your just starved for attention there primal



That's a lot of nerve you have right there telling me what I'm starved for. I could care less how much attention I get from the dragid family or the guests that stop by. I say what i say because so many of you new members or young members like to make comments on everything everyone else says before you completely read and understand what a person posts. Most of my posts are as clear as day, yet there are some who still just read the first few words or sentences, depending on how long my post is, and then make a totally different conclusion than what I intended.

Of course I like it when someone quotes on what I say and then makes a valid counter-argument. That's the reason why I go on boards online and post. I'm not out to make online enemines or the such (it just shows how much time a person has online when that person waits every moment just to continue flaming or whatever). Discussions are a great thing to have online or IRL so long as they make sense.

As for the thread, my argument stands as is.

[Mr.Furious]

erf...ur opinions are weird.....first i have to say that vincent sucks, yuffie was good cause of her second to last limit, her last one sucked. although i didnt use aeris much i used her as healer/magic user in some missions where u had to have her in ur party. and in terms of character depth i say she had a bigger part than even cloud, (one of the reasons i didnt wanna go into the temple of the ancients) i think u just use ur charcters the wrong way, cloud is..the best char in terms of str, yuffie is fast, aeris is good at magic, baeerts a good ranged char and so is yuffie, and i forget the rest.....

[.hack\\slasher]

i hated her.....she was so weak and died way to much.....i was glad wen she died!!!!

[shetan83]

battle-wise, aeris is great if you use her as a mage sort of person. Her physical attacks suck, and shes more of a support character. Her limit breaks are mostly for supporting the party. character-wise, i thought tifa was waaay better. tifa was the girl next door, the reason the story happened, saved clouds life, really loved him, blah blah. aeris only liked cloud because he reminded her of zack. so tifa LOVED him while aeris LIKED him. i think it was pretty foolish of aeris to run off by herself and get killed by sephiroth (who is awesome by the way). she WASN'T sacrificing herself, because technically she planned on going back to cloud, which showed that she wasn't planning to die. people give her more credit than she deserves. while she did pull of the lifestream stunt in the end, well...frankly, she should have. it was her duty as an ancient and her duty as a good person.

as for tifa and her...assets, IT

[shetan83]

^^ sorry

what i meant to say was: IT'S NOT HER FAULT THAT SHE WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!

[Holy_Judgement]

at first i didn't think much of aeris in battle. she was agood character story wise. when she died, i was saddened a bit. no one in the game was in any way a crappy character. it wouldn't be the same without em, especially aeris.

so ppl try and get too technical about the whole death issue. in battle its more like KO'd rather than death, despite what the manual says. if aeris was revived the game would be different and probably not as memorable. it waas how it was i like aerisl. period.

[DeathBunny]

OK, Aires was ok for healing. but as a character i dnt like her at all. but Tifa man shes cool as a character but bad as a party member. but shes hot though

[Bloodtear]

If I had Aeris when fighting Ruby and Emerald Weapon it would have been the simplest task of my life.
Great Gospel is Invincibility(Forget for how long, wouldn't matter anyway, those are long fights.)
No worries about Air Tam Storm or Comet-2.
Great magic user, very kid like attitude. I can't say I liked her the first time I played through the game.

--I really do hate Cloud though. He stole Zack's life and let him die...then he stole his girlfriend!

[Xburner]

i say yuffie is the worst char. in usefulness since shes no better than tifa. Aeris is the most useful char when it comes to long battles and she happens to be my second most powerful char. right now

tifa has useful limitbreaks and thats it, that and that shes like a monk but thats it.

[Lunatic High]

first off, to all you retards who say tifa is a better character and had a deeper storyline than aeris... you guys can all go ƒuck yourselves. just leave the forum now and go back to jacking off to video game women.

personally, i liked aeris as a character. in battle, she was the opposite of "useless" or "weak". she has the most powerful healing spells due to her insanely high magic rating, her ultima magic would be just as strong as red xiii's cosmo memory and her great gospel limit break would bring emerald weapon to his knees. go use great gospel a few times, then tell me how useless she is. dumbƒuck n00bs... invincibility isn't weak.


tifa has useful limitbreaks and thats it, that and that shes like a monk but thats it.

she has weak limit breaks. omnislash, catastrophe, highwind, great gospel... these are all far better.

[zell]

lemme tell sumthing, aeris is truly one of the better ones. i beleive there is a code to get tifa to die instead of aeris... not sure if its truth or friction...

[SinginGipsi]

Aeris in the beginning was a little too pure for me to like until I leveled her up as a white mage. Then I saw use for her, but her story line is 10x better when you know her past.

As for that code mentioned before, that seems a little improbable for a game with that type of storyline to work that hard on a code. But who knows?

[Rambid]

i gotta say that aeris was my least favorite character in any game. she did nothing but bother the crap out of me. When Sephiroth impaled her i was laughing. :machine:
and tifa is a better character. her limit breaks are good if you have her strength high, and any character can use restore magic.

[Lunatic High]

what don't you fools get!? tifa's limit break is weak. WEAK.

maximum of 7 hits, maximum of 9999 damage per hit. her first 3 limits in the chain will never do 9999. but, anyway...
7 x 9999 = roughly 68,000
now for omnislash: 15 x 9999 = roughly 148,000
catastrophe and highwind both come in close behind omnislash.

tell me the point in using a chain limit break when it does half the damage of cloud, cid or barret's limit attacks. you can't mess up with cloud's omnislash. you can ƒuck up on tifa's easily. tifa's is weak and pointless. aeris' does 0 damage with her great gospel, but your opponents will be doing 0 damage every turn. she has the most useful limit break in the game. if you say otherwise, you're lying.

[Blade_Dane10]

This is probibly the last time i'll chime in on this tread. I didn't like aries because it took to long for her to be usefull, and by then she was dead. I to laughed my @$$ off when she died. a few of my friends said they cried, i don't think they did but who cares. As for limit breaks. Omnislash is my fav. simply because it is flashy with power. When i fought Ruby and Emerald i used cloud, barret, and cid. The three strongest people in the game, if you ask me. This time round i'm fighting them with cloud, vincent, and XIII.

[hiei2kenshin]

God I hated her so much. I mean the first time I played through the game I liked her but when I got to the point where she died I found out that was A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME TO EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH HER. So now everytime I play through it I never use her and if she gets ko'ed I say screw her and let her stay that way. So all in all she was pointless I mean it would have been better if when she died that cloud went berserk and killed Sephiroth then she would have been somewhat important to me.

[Xeno_Viamont]

Aries was a great char, great gospel is the best ^_^. and thats about all there is to say


btw: y are u ppl argueing about weather cloud could have used a fenix(i like the old spelling, its easier) down on her anyway? its just a game ppl get over it

[MaisalG]

I don't have much of an opinion on her. I dunno, she kinda annoyed me and I really never took much interest in her. So I can't say I liked her, but I didn't despise her either. She was the kind of character that was just...there.

[Mega_Vegito9]

Aeris is alright, she's a good healer, but Yuffie is worse(personality wise) GOD IS SHE ANNOYING!! but Tifa's an ok fighter to but she doesn't have alot of HP....or good defense.....

[KatPaige]

all this arguing over whether or not the phoenix down could have been used . . .FORGET THAT

Cloud practically WATCHED sephiroth float down and stab Aeris. i even had enough time to jump through my TV screen and push her out of the way, what was cloud THINKING watching her die like that .. . heh heh, thats just my opinion

as for her character, she was an ANCIENT, supposed to be all in tune with the world and healing. she was meant to be a white mage, not physically strong. her final limit break was awesome, and people need to understand this, even though you can switch around materia and make other people white mages, SHE had the best stats for it and she had the limit breaks. They always say the best offense is a good defense. Aeris WAS needed in the game. admit it.

I'm also not going to sit here and BASH the other characters because this is NOT what the thread was originally intended for, people. All the characters were needed, they made the story as deep as it was, and each character was interesting and had their good and bad points in battle. No character was meant to be perfect.

[Lord Sephiroth]

Rinoa is worse than Aeris. She had the whole "I'm too weak to take care of myself, HELP SQUALL" thing goin. Iliked Aeris.

[Blade_Dane10]

I'll admit that roina was like that. Take a stab at why i didn't use her. First time through any FF i use guys, just because they have the highest physical stats. Then i go with the magic girls. Last time through i rock out with a mixture. Even with all that i still didn't use Aeris. So does anyone still think i'm nuts?