The All Star Yao [Archive] - Dragid Connections

Marth278

01-17-2004, 07:02 PM

Last year, Yao got to the All-Star game, supposedly b/c he was a famous rookie who already rivaled Shaq. Now fans see the "true Yao", not the rookie one who fans wanna turn big but he really isn't. Do you think he will/should make the All Star game this season?

I think he should make it. He's not a rookie anymore, nor does he play like 1. He scores 20 easy, some rebounds slip but he still gets them. Not to mention he is a modest as hell player

Spaz

01-18-2004, 01:37 PM

he had a nice 22-15 game last ngiht against my boy kg... but i do consider yao one of the top 5 centers in the nba.... maybe a top 3 next year....

1.Shaq
2.Wallace
3.Chandler
4.Gasol
5.Ming

shaq's falling with the core of players hes got but next year hes his own man....

I've always liked gasol,chandler....
The hawks regret trading his 7 ft ass to vancoover...
and chandler...
my god a 7'1 coming out of high school...
3 years removed hell have curry to back him up and anice guard situation...

but as you yao...
Maybe Next season as an all star....
I like hiom hiring Ewing oto show him the agressiveness of his game... but yeah with his skills being applied to that 7'6 monster then i think weve got a shotblocking machine... 3.2 blocks per game next season

Loner_Cuatro

01-18-2004, 04:07 PM

15.7 PPG, 9.3 RPG, and houston has won 4of their last 5 games when yao has scored 15+ points, even though he though he only has 1.9 bpg, he is still all star material, just him on the court with you is intimidating(sp?). So yes i think he should go to the all star game, but i dont think he should start.

shishimaru

01-18-2004, 06:45 PM

well if it gets a billion votes from china, im sure hell make it.

pinstripes25220

01-25-2004, 04:11 AM

yao is without question an all-star. he should and will start for the west this year.

1.Shaq
2.Wallace
3.Chandler
4.Gasol
5.Ming
:lol:

first of all, gasol isnt a center hes a forward. and there is no way in hell that tyson chandler is the 3rd best center in the nba.

1.Shaq
2.Nowitzki(yes he does play center)
3.Wallace
4.Yao
5.Brad Miller

BlackdevilStar

01-25-2004, 04:42 AM

JimmyBui

01-25-2004, 04:55 AM

yao is without question an all-star. he should and will start for the west this year.

:lol:

first of all, gasol isnt a center hes a forward. and there is no way in hell that tyson chandler is the 3rd best center in the nba.

1.Shaq
2.Nowitzki(yes he does play center)
3.Wallace
4.Yao
5.Brad Miller

Well Gasol does play center,he switches off when stromile swift when they run posey,williams,miller and watson,gasol will play center

Yao can be a lot better of a center if he played like shaq,yao is now 7'6'' and hes not the monster type,i mean he plays foreign basketball,so obviously hes an alien to the NBA,but if he adapts to the NBA,he'll be a lot better of a center since he can match with shaq the way he plays,but if he plays like most centers in the NBA,his defense will improve and will get more assists.Yao will rarely slam dunk

And since brad miller is gonna hav eto share time with webber and divac,he wont do so good anymore,and he rarelly does good now

and my type five are
1.Shaq-hes a domiant force inside and out,when he was with kobe,the 1-2 team were unstoppable to the rest of the nba,it was an in and out game but shaq was credited with mvps all over because he was the reason he got kobe open shots drawing the double teams,and with malone payton and kobe,he'll share the ball more,but will most likely get more 1 on 1 situations

2.Wallace-although Big Ben isnt the best shooter youd find,he wont get free throws to sink,but he can smack the ball out of the arena and easily grab 20 boards,hes the NBA's most dominant force

3.Jermaine O'Neal-eversince b-miller signed with the kings,o'neal has gotten time as a center,his shots have been closer and since hes used as a PF last year,he can sink the shots PF's can,and with his PF-C shooting ability hes not too bad,he will bring home a lot of points and rebounds but his assists wont be as great since hes not the shaq time of player

4.Dirk Nowitzki-dirk can shoot the perimeter shot,centers will rarely do that,and with his size,he isnt that great inside,but he is great outside which draws big players like shaq outside to the perimter

5.Tim Duncan-Tim duncan,a 2 year mvp,takes time at center with rashnerovich,he will shoot the 3,and miss,but he will carry your team on his back to the finals and win a championship

Where does Ming stand?Ming stands 7 after dampier,until ming adapts to the nba he'd be a 2-3 ranked player to me,but i ranked dampier high because hes just a great player,and spaz thinks hes a lucky player,but when u get 20-10,20-20 games its not luck,its a lot of training and hard work

pinstripes25220

01-25-2004, 08:13 PM

Well Gasol does play center,he switches off when stromile swift when they run posey,williams,miller and watson,gasol will play center

Yao can be a lot better of a center if he played like shaq,yao is now 7'6'' and hes not the monster type,i mean he plays foreign basketball,so obviously hes an alien to the NBA,but if he adapts to the NBA,he'll be a lot better of a center since he can match with shaq the way he plays,but if he plays like most centers in the NBA,his defense will improve and will get more assists.Yao will rarely slam dunk

And since brad miller is gonna hav eto share time with webber and divac,he wont do so good anymore,and he rarelly does good now

and my type five are
1.Shaq-hes a domiant force inside and out,when he was with kobe,the 1-2 team were unstoppable to the rest of the nba,it was an in and out game but shaq was credited with mvps all over because he was the reason he got kobe open shots drawing the double teams,and with malone payton and kobe,he'll share the ball more,but will most likely get more 1 on 1 situations

2.Wallace-although Big Ben isnt the best shooter youd find,he wont get free throws to sink,but he can smack the ball out of the arena and easily grab 20 boards,hes the NBA's most dominant force

3.Jermaine O'Neal-eversince b-miller signed with the kings,o'neal has gotten time as a center,his shots have been closer and since hes used as a PF last year,he can sink the shots PF's can,and with his PF-C shooting ability hes not too bad,he will bring home a lot of points and rebounds but his assists wont be as great since hes not the shaq time of player

4.Dirk Nowitzki-dirk can shoot the perimeter shot,centers will rarely do that,and with his size,he isnt that great inside,but he is great outside which draws big players like shaq outside to the perimter

5.Tim Duncan-Tim duncan,a 2 year mvp,takes time at center with rashnerovich,he will shoot the 3,and miss,but he will carry your team on his back to the finals and win a championship

Where does Ming stand?Ming stands 7 after dampier,until ming adapts to the nba he'd be a 2-3 ranked player to me,but i ranked dampier high because hes just a great player,and spaz thinks hes a lucky player,but when u get 20-10,20-20 games its not luck,its a lot of training and hard work

OK. If your going to count players that CAN play center then the list is different.

1.Tim Duncan
2.Shaq
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Ben Wallace
5.Jermaine O'Neal
6.Yao Ming
7.Pau Gasol
8.Brad Miller
9.Zydrunas Ilgauskas
10.Kurt Thomas

Yeah, Dampier does have good stats but he cant change a game.

GreenLantern01

01-26-2004, 08:37 PM

Yao should make the All-Star game. The bad thing is yall dont see what I see in houston (I live in houston). you guys just see highlights. :idea: He woud prob. start If Franchise and mobely would give up the ball and stop taking un-needed 3pointers and tough shots. Maybe when they learn to pass the ball to him, his numbers will look alot better.

ruff_edgz

01-26-2004, 11:14 PM

OK. If your going to count players that CAN play center then the list is different.

1.Tim Duncan
2.Shaq
3.Dirk Nowitzki
4.Ben Wallace
5.Jermaine O'Neal
6.Yao Ming
7.Pau Gasol
8.Brad Miller
9.Zydrunas Ilgauskas
10.Kurt Thomas

Yeah, Dampier does have good stats but he cant change a game.

i am going to have to give you credit on this because these are some good centers in the game but i am going to reorder them:

1. Shaq -- the only thing stopping him is a truck.. be Top Center until he retires

2. Tim Duncan -- i feel people think he fell off the earth but i think he is still on of the best.. needs to get more physical and beef up a little

3. Ben WALLACE -- not tall for a Center but DAMN the man can get get rebounds... he will be a threat always until he leaves as well.

4. Dirk Nowitzki -- one of the best all around players in the game i think right now.. has what any team is looking for in a player

5. Chris Bosh -- the rookie from GT is doing amazing!! i have to say that with the right team and coach, he will go places! but in Toranto; AMAZING

6. Yao Ming -- True that Ming is just have a good season again for the second year but how long will he last for real?? i mean the guy is massive (tall i mean) but most of the biggest men in b-ball could not last a long season. So as much as i like this guy i don't think he will last long with the NBA

7. Pau Gasol -- This guy is just doing great for Memphis and i think he is one of the reasons Memphis has a chance with making the playoffs... this man right here and the 7ft big man will be here for awhile as well. Like this one.

8. Marcus Camby -- WOW another Center that doesn't get enough props as he should get. the man has had a rough season with Toranto and getting injuried with NYK and had not gotten alot of looks with NYK and now he is with DEN how is doing really will with Carmelo and he is being pushed back once again. The leader in blocks per game and starting center is not getting a lot of points but is helping DEN with Rebounds and DEF stats since he has been with the club.. this man (if he does not get hurt again) will be a big time Center in later years.

Players that are not Centers:

Jermaine O'Neal -- Jeff Foster is the Center; J is more PF

Brad Miller -- Indiana is probably kicking themselves for letting this man go but oh well.. Brad is more of the PF as well

Kurt Thomas -- NYK, on of the biggest disappointments i have seen this season... but Thomas is more of a PF as well

*well those are my picks and i think they will all be somewhat good with the right choices and if no one pulls a Vin Baker in the league*

take care and have a good one

|2uff

Loner_Cuatro

01-27-2004, 01:21 AM

-MæLstrom-

01-27-2004, 03:43 AM

nowitski will be center when they put out nash, finley, jamison and walker =)

ruff_edgz

01-27-2004, 04:31 PM

as ruff pointed out, O'neal, miller, and Thomas are really more of PF's.

But Dirk, i would never have him as my center, he's not really physical enough for me to be a center plus, he does alot more for the team from the outside, really hard to take 37% shooter from beyond the arc thats 7'0.

The rest i dont really have any disagreements(sp?)

i see what you are saying about Dirk but i think even for a 7ft center to shoot 3's is like an added bonus for a team that has him but if you look at his stats for this season:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dirk_nowitzki/index.html?nav=page

he is doing amazing things with just a talented line having Nash, Finley, Jamison and Walker who are all great players and all desirve the ball as much as Dirk. you look at his stats and for a Center, he is almost in the top ten in every catigory and i think for a 7ftt monster like him he should be in the top 5 for rebonds so he might be a little weak inside sometimes but when he is on DEF i don't think he does try hard to not get a rebond and when he is on offense and can't get inside.. he can shoot just like a powerfoward/smallfoward from 10ft or more and make them.. he would be one of my picks if i had a chance but i understand your concern about him being not physical but he makes it a lot with other good qualities!!

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SpeedyShark02

01-30-2004, 05:05 PM

yao gets too many fouls... he needs to learn the rules of the NBA

WoNDaH x BoY

01-30-2004, 07:23 PM

He isn't a great player. He is a good player.

My Top 5 Centers:

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Wallace
4. Jermaine O Neal
5. Big Z, on the Cavs.

East will win this year.

Eldricht

01-30-2004, 11:39 PM

yao gets too many fouls... he needs to learn the rules of the NBA

Yao will possibly get into the All Stars game. But the main problem with Yao is that he is too skinny. There is not enough muscle on that boy. Shaq could slap him once, and he would not ask for water. Yao needs to eat better food, and workout as much as Shaq does. If he does that, then he will be a damn good center.

Other than that, my vote goes to Shaq because I love the Lakers. :D :D :D

ruff_edgz

01-31-2004, 02:10 AM

update... Yao made the all star team.. so this thread is kind of pointless now because we all know now that he made it.. question answered ;)

|2uff

Eldricht

01-31-2004, 02:24 AM

update... Yao made the all star team.. so this thread is kind of pointless now because we all know now that he made it.. question answered ;)

|2uff

Oh God...*Yao falls, hits his head, and is out for the rest of the game. Shaq falls, hits his head, gets back up, and plays the rest of the game.* :lol:

pinstripes25220

01-31-2004, 08:55 PM

Players that are not Centers:

Jermaine O'Neal -- Jeff Foster is the Center; J is more PF

Brad Miller -- Indiana is probably kicking themselves for letting this man go but oh well.. Brad is more of the PF as well

Kurt Thomas -- NYK, on of the biggest disappointments i have seen this season... but Thomas is more of a PF as well

Yeah, Jermaine O'Neal normally plays power forward and Scot Pollard and Jeff Foster play center. But Jermaine can play center.
Brad Miller is a center and does play center in Sacramento and played center in Indiana.
Kurt Thomas doesn't play center in New York because of Mutombo but he did before Mutombo got there. Thomas is more like a power forward. I think he is too small to play center but he can.

When I made my list, I made anyone that does, has, or could logically play center eligble for my list.

Indiana is not kicking themselves for trading Brad Miller. Yeah, he's had a great year so far,but Indiana DOES have the best record in the NBA. They're fine without him.