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MainEventz
10-25-2003, 12:50 PM
There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.
In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.
The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.
The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".
The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.
In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.
A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum.
In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
There are no suspects for the shooting.
Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.
Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.)
In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy? Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy.
The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs.
Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power.
In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.
The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.
Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.
I know this has been done before but this a little differnt becuase it has alot of eveidence anywaydo you think that this all a cawincedence?-(cant spell)
oceanbluebaby
10-25-2003, 12:53 PM
yes!!!!!!!!
he lives!!!!!!!!!!!
but yea.. i think this has been done b4 not too long ago
he was always an awsoome artist..and so respected...
we talked about him in psychology class for a few classes.. he was a very influencial person
Shaolin-Emu
10-25-2003, 03:53 PM
Jesus christ, just shut the hell up.
F*CK TUPAC! He's dead. Just shut up.
Originally posted by Shaolin-Emu
Jesus christ, just shut the hell up.
F*CK TUPAC! He's dead. Just shut up.
LOL! good times good times....
Anyways.. I do not think Tupac is dead. I think he's in mexico f***** his girls with a different name. Bwhaha... just a thought..
boy.. you sure do love the cut and paste feature huh?
AzN r o c a 318
10-25-2003, 08:12 PM
i think that tupac is alive and faked his death. there are a lot of theries to this. you have most of them written down but i remember seeing on this site.
Most fans (over 83% in a recent survey) still hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this.
The uncontested facts:
After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.
The suspicious facts:
Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.
There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.
In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.
The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.
The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.
Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?
In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.
A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.
In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.
Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?
In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?
Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.
Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same
One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.
Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."
The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.
Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.
Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.
< There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".
heres the site
http://www.tupacfans.com/alive.php
ps
i havent read what i wrote just copy and paste it cause i read it a long time ago so i forgot if it mentioned this - tupac will show everyone he is still alive on september of 2004 because that will be the SEVENTH aniversery of his death. so in september we will know if he's alive or dead. and there is alot of stuff writen about the number 7 up in the thing i posted. also i didnt read what the starter of the thread posted so dont yell at me if i posted some of the same stuff
WoNDaH x BoY
10-25-2003, 08:55 PM
Uh yo, according to the seven day theory, Tupac was supposed to have come back last month in September. This Thread should be closed right now. Have you seen the September issue of Hip Hop XXL? Yeah, his mom even confesses that her son has died.
DROP IT.
One!
sakuragaoka
10-26-2003, 05:44 PM
I still thinkk Tupac's alive...
asianbrothr4eva
10-26-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Shaolin-Emu
Jesus christ, just shut the hell up.
F*CK TUPAC! He's dead. Just shut up.
F*uck YOU He is alive, and still the greatest rapper ever.
Yea this was up before
Shaolin-Emu
10-26-2003, 08:59 PM
*caugh*d*ckrider*caugh*
dude ur like 13, you like pac just cuz everyone else does.
As for the greatest rapper ever comment....i'll just let you live with that dillusion
SkyxFaZexGh0st
10-27-2003, 03:06 AM
alive or not...drop it...its not like anyone is willing to bring him back or anything...
but overall...hes still the legend in the industry..noone can fade him...
Infinite Limit
11-01-2003, 06:42 PM
tupacs still alive...i know u know it we all know it..hes prolly in afganastan somewhere hangin wit osama bin laden..lol
Manslaya123
01-30-2004, 10:55 PM
i told my friend about this b4
BlackdevilStar
01-31-2004, 12:08 AM
ya its really getting annnoying how people aree saying that hes still alive... hes dead they did autopsys'.. they had his funeral.. hes DEAD
AzN r o c a 418
01-31-2004, 02:18 PM
i use to think hes alive but he was suppose to come back awhile ago so now i agree that hes dead. me and my friends made a bet wither he was alive or not. i feel really stupid now that i think he's dead
my old theory: tupac is alive
my new theory: the same people that believe tupac is alive are the same type of people that belive elvis is still alive
anarchistbabie
01-31-2004, 06:22 PM
yup yup ,, I remember in like 3rd grade this kid had me convinced his brother was 2pac ,, anyways I do believe hes dead ,, Why dont we question others Like why does no one question Mr. Rogers death,, He was cooler ^_^.. I know he will come back someday
Kansei
01-31-2004, 06:31 PM
Let the man rest in peace!!
Tamago
01-31-2004, 08:36 PM
These are the facts about 2pac's death and other stuff supporting and contradicting his "still alive" theories.
http://www.2pac2k.de/alive.html
And Emu, I still don't see why you show so much hate towards an artist that's had such an impact over the industry and other artists as well. Probably the only reason I've seen is his "fans" here are 13 year olds that misunderstand his music, or just cuz his name is pretty much everywhere. If it's cuz of that, you're reasons for hating 2pac is pretty much bull****.
anarchistbabie
01-31-2004, 08:43 PM
I never said I hated Tupac his poetry was brilliant ,, I read the book ^_^ ,, I just dont understand why no one can accept a death and let it go ,, Mr. Rogers had a influence on my life but Im letting go ,, just as tupac had a influence on the rap industry,, Tupac was an intelligent man I believe he lived up to everyones standards,,Which yes it makes him different from every single rapper today,, and letting go of what shaped the industry is moving on into the suckyness of it today,, But hes dead lol,, Sid Vicious is dead ,, I cant fully say he helped shape punk,, no I'll say it ,, Sid Vicious Helped even though he had no talent he did have an affect.. He isnt forgotten,,But his death is exactly that.. His death and tupacs death should be accepted as well.
TurtleFarm
01-31-2004, 08:45 PM
Tupacs dead. I dont like rap like that ...hes dead just let it go. You guys are kind of like elvis worshipers "the kings still alive" No affense ..
Shaolin-Emu
01-31-2004, 08:48 PM
These are the facts about 2pac's death and other stuff supporting and contradicting his "still alive" theories.
http://www.2pac2k.de/alive.html
And Emu, I still don't see why you show so much hate towards an artist that's had such an impact over the industry and other artists as well. Probably the only reason I've seen is his "fans" here are 13 year olds that misunderstand his music, or just cuz his name is pretty much everywhere. If it's cuz of that, you're reasons for hating 2pac is pretty much bull****.
its not hate, dude. Im just sick and tired of hearing rants and raves about some guy whos dead, and is refered to as 'an amazing lyricist'
I dont care if he had a message, he was by no means the greatest rapper of all time. Not even the most influential, because that title goes to Run DMC
...wanna know what the basis of my anger towards this subject comes from?
Tupac was a d*ckhead. Always dissing artists who could rap circles around him (i.e. Nas, Canibus, Biggie, and yes, even Xzibit is a better lyricist than pac)
however as much as he was an *******, people love him. People refer to him in this 'high and mighty' fashion that he just plain doesnt deserve
I could also say f*ck Suge Knight for releasing so many god damned tupac albums after he was dead, which is where half of his god damned fame comes from
btw, I was gonna drop this subject all together, but you still seem so eager to jump to the defense of your "great rapper"
nWo4life
01-31-2004, 11:33 PM
its not hate, dude. Im just sick and tired of hearing rants and raves about some guy whos dead, and is refered to as 'an amazing lyricist'
I dont care if he had a message, he was by no means the greatest rapper of all time. Not even the most influential, because that title goes to Run DMC
...wanna know what the basis of my anger towards this subject comes from?
Tupac was a d*ckhead. Always dissing artists who could rap circles around him (i.e. Nas, Canibus, Biggie, and yes, even Xzibit is a better lyricist than pac)
however as much as he was an *******, people love him. People refer to him in this 'high and mighty' fashion that he just plain doesnt deserve
I could also say f*ck Suge Knight for releasing so many god damned tupac albums after he was dead, which is where half of his god damned fame comes from
btw, I was gonna drop this subject all together, but you still seem so eager to jump to the defense of your "great rapper"
Why do you hate tupac so much? when ever someone says "Wow man i heard Tupac's work and its amazing" there you are "Shut the fu*k up stupid newbie bi*tch you dont know about real rap." and stuff man you need to chill out people can like tupac.Well i belive tupac is dead and yes he was a good rapper.
Shaolin-Emu
02-01-2004, 01:25 PM
Why do you hate tupac so much? when ever someone says "Wow man i heard Tupac's work and its amazing" there you are "Shut the fu*k up stupid newbie bi*tch you dont know about real rap." and stuff man you need to chill out people can like tupac.Well i belive tupac is dead and yes he was a good rapper.
....yea quoted my previous post..yet I find it hard to believe that you actually read it, seeing as how you still question my disliking of an over hyped artist, even though I just explained it
oh yea, and that post you quoted, but didnt really read...that was a response, I wasnt just randomly dumping on pac again for no reason
Rithumandpulees
02-01-2004, 04:46 PM
He's alive, I know he is.
Right along with Elvis.
HAHAHAHA, i laugh in the peoples faces that say hes alive. hes mfing dead. Give it a rest. And btw, his music does suck, right along with every other "ooooh, im a hardcore gangsta with hoes, 40s, and impalas" type of music rappers
Slipknot666
02-01-2004, 06:54 PM
Just because he didn't show himself on the seventh anniversary of his death doesn't mean he's actually dead. What if he shows himself on the anniversary of his "death" in 2014? (2+0+1+4=7) But chances are Tupac is actually dead.
gordonman
02-02-2004, 03:48 PM
If the man is alive, he probably faked his own death so everyone would leave him the hell alone. So if he is dead, let's just let him rest in peace. If he's not, let's let him rest in his beach chair in the phillipines.
Ramina-Riku
02-16-2004, 02:02 AM
SCARY tupac is awesome he needsto come back and be a Rapper again
brad123
03-03-2004, 10:25 PM
did N e 1 notice that on his Cd Better Dayz it indicates that each cd has 13 songs on it but on the 2nd 1 it has 14 and its him talking and he says "expect me N*gga like u expect Jesus to come back expect me n*gga im comin"?
WoNDaH x BoY
03-09-2004, 05:56 PM
^ AIGHT. First of all i started this topic in another thread. Main Event you stole from me ****head. Haha j/p s'all gewd cuz it has to deal with Hip Hop
I don't know what to believe. There are many facts which prove he is still alive, and there are many facts which prove he has passed on. He raps of resurrection and death in his songs and who really knows but God. All in all Tupac was not the greatest lyricist and didn`t have the greatest flow but if ya talk to any true tupac fan you will know that, that isnt the reason why he was so great.
It was his emotion. You dont seem to realise that there was a struggle and he was trying to break free, born in the gutter and having a mind of a poet. Tell me how many rappers can say they have made a stand for the black race to bring them out of the oppression. not many. Tupac not only appealed to those who were thugs but those who were not, and not many can do that now. 50 cent a prime example of thug life (well what is suppost to be) , Common the socially conscious MC two opposing styles roled up into one and not many can do that and still have credibillity. Thug life isn't about realest killas, or the meaning that's been destroyed. The way Tupac explained it is anyone whose going through struggles, or has gone through struggles, and anyone who is still living day after day with nothing for them is a Thug, and they are living the Thug Life. He spread rap and is still the greatest beacause he fought for more than himself he fought aggainst the oppression when everything looked futile he could have lived a life doing nothing wrong never rebeling and just rapping about how he was gonna kill 50 people but he rose above that and lived every minuite speaking his beleifs and thoughts. and if you don't feel "Brenda's Got A Baby" you have no soul whatsoever.
Icewind
03-09-2004, 09:08 PM
i once thught he was alive but seeing as he has not come back he's ether dead or just doesent care so fu*k him
Method
03-12-2004, 10:10 PM
Well it really depends,Tupac maybe be dead,but he may not be,i mean its just how you look at it.If you see this "evidence" a coincidence but then agian if you view if it as evidence then you belive what you belive.Personaly i belive tupac is still alive but i dont think he is making records.That all Suge Knight.
WoNDaH x BoY
03-13-2004, 06:28 PM
If you wanna say he's dead, then back your opinions up fckin' newbs
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